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While I'm with Bernie in the primary, I'll vote for Hillary in the election, should it come down to it. I don't agree with all her politics, but I'd sooner put Cailou in the White House, before Trump. I worry an influx of write-ins would help him achieve the nomination.

Personally, I feel Trump enables every -ism on the map. Sure, he's a straight shooter....about being repulsive. It's more than disheartening. He could vow to double teachers' salaries and I'd still nope right out of there. I fear a Trump presidency. I think he's as vile as he is dangerous and cannot at all understand the level of support and allowance he's received.

Does the choice of VP affect any of the conservatives or mild conservatives out there who can not see themselves voting for Trump? Like if he land an awesome vp - would it make you more able to vote for him?

I am sad with both options and normally vote Republican all across but I vote for Hillary over Trump for sure!

@JoJoGirl: I've disliked the cries of sexism but that is a sexist article. She got lumped into whitewater because she was a lawyer and business partner. I mean come on, if you want to be dismissive its way more dismissive to ignore she was a lawyer and business partner.

@Eko: I agree with your DH in that much of what Trump says is simply for show and the free press that it gives him. Being inflammatory has given him more free advertising then just about anything else he could have done. I don't think that he would actually try (or be able to succeed if he were to try) in implementing much of what he is in the news for.

There is no way that he would have been able to be successful in business if he did not know how to be diplomatic when he needed to and how to surround himself with people who can advise him in areas where he needs help.

@Jess1483: I agree with you...but do feel (bottom line concern aside) that there are many similarities between running a major corporation and running a country. But I certainly agree the consideration of the masses (citizens) needs to to be viewed as the stakeholders of the company.

I think his resume as a business lends to his ability to 1) hire the right advisers 2) handle himself during difficult times/decisions 3) manage high stakes relationships diplomatically 4) understand the intricacies and dynamics of decision making for such a large "organization" from an economics standpoint.

@Mrs.KMM: You said it in a much better way than I did. I should not try to speak on matters that require some eloquence when it's the end of a workday. haha.

Even though I am voting for Hillary, I would actually consider voting for Trump if Bernie has the nomination.

@Jess1483: yeeesssss!

If some president wanted to hire Trump to be on the cabinet for dealing with the national deficit? Sure. That is his wheelhouse. I could understand that.

But to be in charge? No. I do NOT trust trumps judgment to hire advisors to run the country under him. To me, it is not about disagreeing with his politics. It is about me not seeing him HAVING politics- only rhetoric and sound bytes and saying whatever he thinks will garner support. I don't think he knows the first thing about how to run a country. I don't think he knows how to prioritize. I don't think he even UNDERSTANDS the real issues. And the most troubling thing for me it is his lack of support among the rest of the Republican Party. It's not that he is somebody was fundamentally different politics than me; he is wholly unable to do this job. And most real politicians can see that.

Eta: I was equally bothered by Bernie's big ideas and lack of plans to implement them. Great inspirational visionary who aligns with my values, but I didn't see much more. I'll put it out there I didn't vote in my state's primary because I couldn't pick a candidate.

@travellingbee: Ugh, yes, this exactly. I don't know what parameters some people use to determine what makes our country 'great', but I am with you that we need to be a kinder, more tolerant society, not more punitive, fearful, and harsh. Just ugh, I can't believe people think that's what makes our country great....

I keep thinking about my grandpa and all of his WWII buddies - they are rolling in their graves right now that they fought so hard to free the world from the Nazi regime, and now, 70 years later, it's an eerily similar situation arising in our very own country. If you had told any of them that thirty years ago, that this would be happening right here, in the United States of America, they never in a million years would have believed it, but sadly, here we are

Hillary!

@hb3233: yes, terrified.

@MamaG: I'm really not sure. If HRC is the nominee, I can't imagine she would pick Bernie. My guess is a male from the South or some contested state. Some are saying HUD Secretary Julian Castro (former mayor of San Antonio???) or the New Mexico senator. Or Sherrod Brown, senator from Ohio.

@travellingbee: He is, but some are saying he's being primed for the next cycle. I admittedly don't know too much about him.

@travellingbee: @winniebee: Hillary is in good health so if she picks Castro as VP he'll have plenty of time to get older and run for Pres later. Corey Booker wouldn't be a bad VP choice either.

@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: he's a good choice. And relatively fresh in politics so it could help balance out all of those corruption claims. I keep thinking she'll pick someone from a contested state / south since it *could* help the vote in the general election.

I'm Canadian so i can't vote, but i had to share this link after seeing so many comments that say "Trump is a great businessman so he'll be a great president": http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21693230-enigma-presidential-candidates-business-affairs-tower-white

Many forget that he had a wealthy father who backed his first deals, and the inheritance that allowed him to bounce back financially.

@Freckles: I actually chuckled when Rubio hinted at this in one of the debates by saying something along the lines of if it weren't for your inheritance, you'd be selling watches on the streets of NYC. Yes, he's not a self-made rags to riches story.

I voted Hillary in this poll, but since I live in a heavy blue state (NY), I might just not vote for president (I'll vote for other races in the election, though).

I just, ugh. She keeps reminding me why I can't get behind her. When she praised Nancy Reagan for "starting a conversation about HIV/AIDS"? Um, the 10s of thousands of people who died because of the Reagans' homophobia and lack of empathy beg to differ?

@jh524: when would you say America was last great? I'm curious! I see that we're still a young country that has always had challenges, but I do think it's still a great place.

@Mrs D: thank you for sharing your views. It's not always an easy thing to do when you're in the minority. I don't think you're sexist for not wanting to vote for Hillary. I don't think any woman should feel compelled to vote for her unless just b/c she's a woman, too.

I think being the leader of a America is much more complex than running a business. Even if I did think being the president is like running a business, I'm not that impressed with Trump's business record in general. And @Mrs D:, I know brash, tell it like it is, men are who you are used to dealing with, but some of the most successful people I know are gentle, humble souls. My jaw dropped when I found out just how filthy, filthy rich a good family friend is--in a nutshell, he's the exact opposite of everything Mr. Trump is. Being a successful businessman doesn't require being an asshole.

@ShootingStar: Agreed. It makes me sick to my stomach to hear people saying he's the lesser of two evils.