What is your family's financial system or method? (you don't have to give details, just a brief summary)
What are the pros?
What are the cons?
What is your family's financial system or method? (you don't have to give details, just a brief summary)
What are the pros?
What are the cons?
eggplant / 11716 posts
I'm asking this because my husband and I have kept our finances mostly separate up until now, but I'm thinking it might be time to make a change. I know most married couples totally combine finances, and before I always felt like that wasn't good for us (we have different spending habits, so I wanted some financial autonomy).
So I'm curious to see other family's perceived pros and cons of their system.
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
The biggest pro is that we have our bank checking account (and a small savings account) but then at a different bank we have a larger account for retirement and long term saving. Its nice to have the long term stuff kinda out of sight out of mind. We just have direct deposit get sent over there. I do have the a high yield checking account there plus the retirement IRA account. The high yield checking is nice that if we do have an emergency I have an old school check book that I can use to write a check to cover an expense.
bananas / 9229 posts
We have combined finances. I handle just about every aspect of them. We have money automatically transferred to savings throughout the month. Sometimes we have to dip into that if we have a larger than usual credit card bill. Otherwise we don't really budget. Neither of us are wild spenders so it works for us. (I see your comment about different spending habits... That's probably a big part of why this works for us, we don't have different habits).
squash / 13208 posts
@Anagram: Why do you think its time to change?
We also keep ours separate - in my mind I think I was single for so long when I finally got married I didn't want to lose that independence.
10 years later nothing has changed - he pays some bills and I pay some bills and when we buy something its with our own money. Although house stuff he usually buys (he makes more $ than me).
We do have a savings account that we both put money into each month for emergencies.
Oh and our names are each others accounts as co-owners.
pomelo / 5573 posts
We have a joint account that our paycheques go into. From that we each get a set amount biweekly (the same amount) into our personal accounts. We use that money for clothes, buying lunches, etc. We also transfer a certain amount into a second joint account. The main account is for predictable monthly things - bills, mortgage, property tax. The other account is for all the other spending - groceries, gas, things for the house.
Oh, and we have a vacation account that has a certain amount automatically transferred every month.
I like this system because we have some autonomous money, it's not dependant on how much each of us make, but we're also not constantly trying to figure out who pays for what to make things even.
pear / 1965 posts
We have a joint account and handle the bills. With him deploying and leaving so much it just makes sense I take care of the finances.
Usually we are pretty good. The biggest thing we struggle with is with him coming and going his pay changes. When he is deployed he makes more. So its always an adjustment of where we put money and how much we pay towards things when he gets back. Plus side to him being gone is making more and that's when I can usually swing paying things off faster or buying bigger things. But man its always an adjustment when we have to "throttle back" when he gets home.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
I Sah so it's kind of different now. We very gradually combined everything after we got married, knowing that when we had kids I would stop working. But DH handles finances differently than me (paying off balances throughout the month instead of on the due date, keeping a running balance in his head at all times). Between that and our bank starting to charge fees for extra accounts, now we have two checking accounts, a joint one that he puts a set amount into every month, and one that is still technically his that he pays all the bills from. We talk about if we will need extra cash or write big checks for any reason and make sure there is enough in the joint but most purchases are on the credit cards anyway.
It works fine for us- though I sometimes think it could be a horror story for me if he ever secretly decided to leave me. Is that weird?
Eta: we also have a joint savings account plus one that is technically only in my name that we pretend isn't there and just think of it as emergency funds.
pear / 1616 posts
We have joint checking and savings that our paychecks go into. We pay all our bills through those accounts. It works for us because I made more than him and I didn't like the idea of having to buy things because I made more. For some reason when it comes from a joint account it doesn't bother me. And he was in school for the first couple years of our marriage so we had to do joint. It works for us. We also have separate checking accounts for "allowance" that we fund when we get extra money from bonus' and such and we can use it on whatever
pomegranate / 3973 posts
We've talked about combining finances but have yet to make the switch.
Right now we just try to split bills evenly, we make about the same so it's relatively easy that way, and we don't have to argue about who's spending money on what since we still have our 'own' money.
Con's would be that I think I am more stingy than him so I could probably pay things off faster if I were in control of all the money - but at the same time, I don't have the time (or desire) to devote to handling all the bills either, nor do I want to be nagging him if he spends too much on beer or truck parts one month!
wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts
We joint finances; I am the sole budgeter and I use YNAB.
Pro is that I am the only one that messes with the budget and has 100% say, haha! Although YNAB has a pretty big learning curve, I really like using it.
The only con I can think of right now is that it's hard to control DH's spending habits. We have very different habits, and although we're on the same page about needing to save, not spend too much, etc, it's just really, really, hard for him to do it. He's not even spending much on himself, and it's hard for me to judge his spending on groceries, stuff for the yard, etc.
So I just kind of make do on the other stuff I have absolute control on.
coconut / 8472 posts
We've had combined finances since right before we were married. It works for us for several reasons. For one, we could not figure out what was fair for personal spending money. If we gave ourselves an allowance, what should that get spent on vs. combined money? I know lots of people do this without a problem, but it just didn't work for us.
The other reason why combining finances works for us is that we split up the benefits between us in the way that costs us least money, vs making our salaries even. At times as things have changed, we've switched back and forth who pays for our health insurance. Right now I fully fund our dependent care spending and health insurance for DS and I. DH has his own health insurance. It makes our pay lopsided, but it's the cheapest way to insure all of us. And since we don't distinguish between "his" and "mine", it doesn't matter. We also have different 401k savings amounts, but we assume it will all be "ours" when we retire.
For the every day stuff, I used to handle the finances but now DH does it. He does much better with his spending when he's managing things. We have all of our pay go into our combined checking, and when we have excess it goes first to our high yield savings accounts, if those are maxed out on interest, it goes to a money market account. We spend everything we possibly can on our credit card, and then we pay it off every month. We use the cash back on points for vacations. We only have 3 credit cards - one we use for practically everything, one for fixed expenses like Verizon (our cards kept getting compromised so this made it easier) and an Amazon one for just Amazon purchases because it has great rewards for that.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
We have joint everything, with no specific budget.
We view everything as "ours", so we're not keeping dibs on who makes more and trying to keep it a distribution "fair". We don't budget specifically for big ticket items like renos vs vacations vs car funds, but just have a giant bucket and decide what to spend it on. We figured that if say the reno budget had money, but vacation budget was low and we wanted to go on vacation, we'd just "borrow" from reno, so why bother separating it. We don't do a day to day budget cause we're not really big spenders and know off the bat we naturally spend a lot less than we can afford to.
The only negative I've run into by not having my own "spending account" is that when I want a new purse, he's very vocal about trying to tell me no.
GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts
We combined finances a few years ago and it really helped us reach our financial goals easier. I like having an extra set of eyes on my bank account. It keeps me from spending quite as wildly as I would if I was the only one with access. The con is that...you know..someone can see everything I buy and access everything I own! Haha.
We also use YNAB and absolutely love it. It has completely transformed our finances for the better. The only con is that it requires frequent tracking of expenses, so if you are someone that doesn't like to do that, it is hard. DH loves doing it, so that makes it easy to continue using the software without issue.
clementine / 854 posts
We have separate chequing and savings accounts as well as joint chequing and savings accounts.
Our separate accounts are basically our own money that we can do with what we like. The joint accounts are for joint purchases. Our paychecks go into our own accounts and we transfer money each month to the joint accounts to cover the bills and add to savings. Everything is 50/50.
Pros:
- If I want to spend spend $200 on clothes, I don't have to ask DH if it's okay. As long as I can afford my share of the bills/savings for the month. I can add to my savings as I want with that leftover money and if I wanted to spend $10 000 on something, I wouldn't even need to ask DH.
- Everything is 50/50, we don't fight about money ever
- DH lends money to family sometimes, and it always comes out of his own accounts, it doesn't affect me at all
Cons:
- This probably wouldn't work as well if one of us made significantly more than the other. We make pretty much the same salary.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@Mamaof2: That's how I felt, too (and I think how my husband feels). We didn't marry until we were 32, so we had a decade of working behind us and very different financial pictures heading into marriage, plus different spending personalities, so it seemed easier to divvy up the bills and then everything else is our own.
Buuutttt.....lately I realized we need to make a plan/will/trust for if one or both of us dies. We still haven't done that and we have 2 kids! And then I realized, if DH dies tomorrow, I don't have access to his "big" account, just our joint one, which doesn't have too much in it because we don't use it for much. So I would have to wait until his whole estate was settled to access the money and that could be very bad for me, seeing as we live in a really expensive area and just our mortgage+hoa+bills+childcare for 1 month could basically wipe out what I have in my separate little savings account. That's the big one.
On a smaller level, we've had some small things lately that I think we aren't handling right, but it's hard to know since we keep everything so separate. Like, DH pays for a portion of childcare expenses to our nanny each week. I pay the rest of the money to the nanny as well as LO1's daycare tuition. He was out of town for business for a week and forgot to transfer the money for that into our joint account. He also had an outstanding parking ticket that wasn't paid, so I paid both of those things while he was gone out of "my" separate account (not our joint). So I had about $550 of unexpected expenses out of "my" account that week he was gone.
I don't want to quibble over these things--it feels odd to ask my husband to pay me back for child care, which is a joint expense. But also, I kind of HAVE to ask him to pay me back or my whole budget for the month is off.
So it's starting to seem easier if we each have our pay checks deposited into our joint account into our separate accounts, and then maybe we have an automatic transfer each month of our fun money to our separate accounts.
I'm not sure....just exploring options right now.
persimmon / 1188 posts
We combined everything as soon as we got married. We both felt strongly about that, it was how our parents both did it so it was the most natural way for us.
My husband pays most of the bills and manages our accounts. We just found it easier for one person to do it, we are both capable and good with money. I like thinking of it all as our money, I haven't had any of my own money in five years and I don't mind.
One obvious drawback is that if anything ever happened to my husband, I'd be a little lost. I know that's not good and I really should know everything. When I was single I was very on top of my finances so I'd be fine, just would need to figure everything out.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@Foodnerd81: I don't think it's weird at all to think about what would happen if you split up. I think about that stuff too--see my response about what would happen if DH suddenly died! Obviously, I hope that I never have to deal with that, but at the same time, I want to be prepared for the worst.
eggplant / 11716 posts
I'd love to hear more from families where the partners have a huge gap in salary, and from families where the partners have different spending habits.
pear / 1881 posts
@PurplePumps: We are setup very much the same as you. We have one main checking account and a money market where a majority of our savings is. We do charge almost everything to get the rewards, but pay it off every other week with each payperiod. We use Mint instead of YNAB, so the hard thing is that we can see each other's purchases, so it's hard to surprise each other for presents for birthdays, Christmas, etc. I also feel guilty buying myself things, so once we pay off some larger bills (IVF and others), then I want to re-institute an allowance. Even if it's just in my head, I then won't feel guilty buying myself a pair of jeans or shoes.
I do also have a rental property, so I have a separate checking and savings for that as well. Once the rent payments come in, all that income goes into the checking to pay the related mortgages. I'll be very happy when we can sell it in a few years!
I will edit this to say that we've had this in place since we were married almost 6 years ago. For us, it's important to know where our money is going and plan for purchases. I'm an accountant, so I feel like I need to control all of it. lol It works for us, but I also get that everyone is different.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
Logistically it's just easier for us to have joint finances. I handle everything and use YNAB. It would be a PITA if we had separate accounts and I had to transfer money between accounts each month.
nectarine / 2400 posts
@Anagram: we have the salary gap and the diff habits. What we do is have all money go into our joint with an automatic transfer to a second joint that dh uses for his own stuff. Gas, food, whatever games or things he wants. I pay all bills and my gas etc out of our large acct. this works for us because I don't have to worry about his acct or spending habits and he can manage his acct as he sees fit. But I'm able to budget and save the majority of our income
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
@Anagram: What about just setting up a joint account for all the household bills? And all household/child bills come out of that account. But still have your paychecks to go separate accounts?
eggplant / 11716 posts
@gotkimchi: So what about stuff you want to buy that's extra--hair cuts, personal care like pedicure, clothes. Does that come out of the big account, and your DH doesn't weigh in on those purchases? edited: or rather, weight in on how much is spent, not what it's spent on?
pomelo / 5866 posts
We have a pretty big gap in income and we do everything joint. Like snowjewelz, I like to have major say on everything and since I'm doing the finances it is very easy to do that! There is a small equal amount of money that we both get each month for personal discretionary expenses but truth to be told, I set that amount as well. So I'm ok with sharing our money because it makes everything go pretty smoothly under my watchful eye.
I also do my finances like @gotkimchi- those items come out of personal.
nectarine / 2400 posts
@Anagram: yes comes out of big acct and no he doesn't weigh in on amt because I'm not the spender in our relationship lol
nectarine / 2210 posts
We keep our finances separate. I pay all our bills from my account but once a month I'll go through them all to figure out dh's share and he'll write me a check to cover it.
We make about the same, except I had a ton of student loans and dh didn't have any. I pay on my loans myself which means dh has extra money that I don't. He does tend to pay for most of the groceries, house stuff, or other random expenses that come up.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@Anagram: my husband weighs in on what I spend, lol and it's taken some getting used to. For example, on haircuts, his costs $17, mine is $85. It was a matter of getting him to understand that you don't get the same services at supercuts versus a full service salon.
He also lets me know when he thinks I've been hitting Banana Republic a bit too much, but I am okay with that because I have a tendency to buy just because the price is good where he views things differently...it's on sale because no one wanted it, basically.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@T.H.O.U.: That's one of my ideas. We just would have to figure out if we would each put a percentage (like say, 75%) into the joint account, or if we would put a certain amount that would leave each of us with roughly the same amount left over in our separate accounts.
pear / 1521 posts
Finances semi-combined. We each get paid into our personal checking accounts and then transfer into joint as necessary. I make a fair amount more but not necessarily what I'd call a huge gap. Health insurance comes out of his paycheck so it makes the disparity seem a lot greater too. We don't really have any issues here; I think if we had trouble making ends meet it might be problematic but we don't so it doesn't matter to me at all that I make more (I'm kind of proud of it actually!).
Pros: I handle all the finances which I like My husband isn't interested anyway.
Even though we have different accounts the money is all really "ours."
It's easy to buy each other gifts because we still have our own accounts.
Cons: Currently we manually transfer money into the joint account - he does the same amount each time he gets paid and I just transfer whatever is needed to pay the bills.
Other con is my husband has no clue if anything happens to me. I need to set up a password manager thing and hopefully I can add him on that as necessary.
coconut / 8472 posts
@Anagram: Personally, I think marriage is a partnership and one partner shouldn't get more play money just because they make more.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@gotkimchi: Gotcha. DH and I are both opinionated about money matters, and we have different spending priorities, but neither one of us is a big spender. So it wouldn't work for us for one of us to have no say on what the other is spending.
He's what I would categorize as mostly a type of person that will deny themselves/his own family things, but is very generous when it comes to family or friends. Like, he would forgo having a cleaning person for 5 years and would iron and home-dry clean his work shirts to save that $$, but would get a lot of pleasure from paying for a milestone vacation for his parents to take. Whereas I'm the type that wants to save, but once the savings goals are met, I also wants to spend where it makes my life easier.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
We have too many accounts but we've been simplifying. For the most part we've been going to a joint account, I pay all the joint bills out of it. We had separate play accounts and paid for different house stuff before but have been pretty much just doing joint for the past 2 years. Took some getting used to but with all the kids and food and joint expenses it makes a lot more sense. we are both frugal and have plenty in savings that if someone's feeling a little spend happy, it's not a big deal. For the most part we're frugal and we discuss any big purchase so it works.
grapefruit / 4988 posts
I feel like ours is sort of complicated to describe, but it's actually not too bad.
We each have individual savings and checking accounts, and we also have one joint savings and one joint checking, plus I put money into a fund for LOs.
We each maintain a set amount for emergency funds in our individual savings accounts. We also each keep a healthy amount in our individual checking accounts.
We put all the extra money that comes in into our joint accounts. Almost all major payments (mortgage, daycare, utilities, student loans, plus retirement savings) are automated. We have one joint credit card which we use for most family/house stuff, and we pay it from our joint account. We each keep individual credit cards which we pay from our own accounts. We usually check in with each other before major purchases but we don't keep formal budgets. We like this because we both have the freedom to buy things when we want but we also trust each other not to overspend (and neither of us ever has).
I will admit, we are lucky to both make healthy salaries now so this works for us. Back when we were starving grad students, we had a different system (which involved counting every penny in a spreadsheet to stay on budget every month).
eggplant / 11716 posts
@ShootingStar: I agree. In our case, it's not more play money.....it would be more saving money. But I'm starting to wonder if we should combine accounts so that it's joint savings and investments rather than his or mine, because frankly, he's able to save a lot more in a year than I can. And hey, as long as we are still married in 40 years, I'm going to benefit from all that savings. I mean, I benefit from it now when something goes wrong and we don't have to worry, because DH can always cover it. But I don't really like being cut out of the process of the savings--the amount, which account it goes to, etc.
But I do see a lot of people on here have a similar situation where they are the one in control, and their partner is less involved. I guess I would like us to be equal partners.
pear / 1672 posts
We have a big disparity in salaries, and we operate under the same system that others have mentioned before. Both paychecks go into one account, and we pay all bills from that account. We each have separate accounts, which we can take from the main account so that we have spending money for incidentals and lunches (and just life). We have joint savings and retirement accounts. I have two credit cards that are only in my name, but I only use one. We have a joint card where most purchases are made and gets paid off monthly. Since our accounts are all the same bank, we’ve made it so that we can see all of the joint accounts (plus our own individual ones) when we log in to our online profiles, so we are able to see how things are flowing. We are on both of these major accounts. DH and I buy things, but we are not very frivolous spenders and we don’t spend extravagantly, so we tend to be on the same page with expense habits. I think we differ on things like major large scale decisions at times as well as things like charitable giving, which I value more than he does (he would disagree). Most of our bills are on automatic with the exception of 2, which DH pays. I think our system allows us to balance being able to feel autonomous, while still creating a seamless system that we don't have to think too much about how it functions.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@petitenoisette: your last sentence is what scared me about my situation. I have a vague clue, and DH is always forthcoming if I ask about specific things, but I don't have actual access.
Like, I know he invests and I know the rough amount--but I don't know which companies he uses! I know it's more than one. If he were in an accident tomorrow, I wouldn't even know which all companies to call to find out what to do with his investments. Same with his life insurance. I know I am the beneficiary, but I don't know who the company is. Same with my student loans and pension if I pass--I don't think DH knows which company I pay to, and who to contact for me pensions--I have 2 in 2 different states.
I kind of just want to get our financial house in order. I've been coasting along because we make enough and save enough that we don't really have any worries. But I want to avoid any ugly issues down the road if one of us (or both of us) suddenly pass, or are disabled, or we divorce, or whatever.
eggplant / 11716 posts
@BKCaribBaby: so you have joint retirement accounts, in addition to your work retirement accounts?
grapefruit / 4800 posts
@Anagram: who does your taxes? I do all of ours and its a complicated mess but at the same time I'm glad bc every year it makes us sit down and go through investments and accounts. Whether you guys are handing info over to an accountant or doing them yourselves, tax time is a great time to look at everything.
pear / 1881 posts
@Anagram: I don't recall, but do you use YNAB or Mint? I don't know YNAB at all, but maybe you can add both of your accounts to it or for sure Mint? Then, you will know exactly what balances are out there, both in checking & savings, but also on any debt, retirement accounts, value of home, student loans, etc.. You can also add mortgages, car loans, etc. It's SO important to be on the same page.
We use Mint and granted all of our accounts are in both of names and combined, but we can see everything that is going on. We discuss about once a week our financial situation and if we have any planned large expenditures (we built our house and are still finishing our basement/landscaping). This might be a good first step so that you can see what your combined financial situation is?
I need to look into the password manager thing..I have so many passwords and my husband doesn't know then all. We would have major issues if something happened to me. He would know where all the accounts are because of Mint; however, getting into them would be another issue.
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