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What are your "rules" or "guidelines" for opposite sex friends?

  1. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @Maysprout: I wouldn't really call those people true friends though. They clearly didn't have an interest in solely being friends with you if there was no reciprocal romantic feelings...

  2. 2littlepumpkins

    grapefruit / 4455 posts

    We don't have set rules.

  3. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @catomd00: they were people I'd considered friends and hadn't ever done or implied anything more than friendship with. And yes, there were people as dh and I got more serious that laid their cards on the table and made it more obvious to say ok this person wants more but not everyone makes it that obvious. Heck two of DH friends, who I also had become friends with tried to kiss me. Drinking was involved and dh and I weren't married yet but still, people who should have been pretty countable to not make a move.

  4. Astro Bee

    pear / 1503 posts

    @oliviaoblivia: Same with DH and I! Only happily married with one sweet little boy. I don't particularly remember our drinks of choice at the time, though.

  5. Anagram

    eggplant / 11716 posts

    We don't have any set rules, because neither of us have any close opposite friends right now. But in the country where DH grew up, having a close opposite sex friend just isn't done (groups are fine, but hanging out alone when not dating doesn't really happen), so he was very confused when he and I started dating and I had a lot of male friends.

    As Maysprout has pointed out, once I started dating DH more seriously and I saw some of my friends through his lens, I realized some of them may be holding on to the idea of something in the future with me, and I really had to move those friends to the category of never hanging out alone. I do have a couple of male friends where I'm confident they did NOT have romantic feelings for me, nor I for them, so I would be comfortable hanging out with them alone. I think DH would be uneasy, due to his upbringing.

    We had a pretty big clash a year into us dating where I planned a solo trip for myself in another country (I traveled solo something like 5 summers in a row), and DH got really freaked out about it. He just couldn't understand why I wouldn't want to go WITH someone (like a female friend, or him) and we really hit a stalemate for a while and had to work out our varied expectations. What helped me during that time was having two married friends saying that if their husbands wanted to travel in another country or 3 weeks solo, it wouldn't fly with them. And it make me rethink my priorities a little. I did end up going on that trip, because I dug in my heels, but now that we've been married and we have children, I wouldn't do it again and I wouldn't want him to do it.

    Something somewhere along the line has changed, I guess. It's not about trust, because my husband is the most trustworthy guy I've ever met. I guess now I just see the value in guarding your relationship a bit and learning to lean on each other first, and put friends second.

  6. BrandNewMom

    cherry / 193 posts

    @oliviaoblivia: Haha, that's awesome! I would sure hate if DH had a similar moment

  7. Orchid

    clementine / 927 posts

    Our rule is not to develop close friendships with members of the opposite sex. My husband does have work friends (this is unavoidable) but the level of closeness is one I'm comfortable with. There's no calling or texting or meeting outside the work context.

    It seems like it's either politically correct or hip to say that these types of friendships are all good, but the fact is that close to 50% of marriages end in divorce. Why would anyone want to indulge in behaviors that have even the slightest potential to endanger their marriage. It is basic human psychology to like what one is familiar with, the mere-exposure effect we all studied about in psych 101. Tons of studies on interpersonal relationships highlight that attraction/liking increase with familiarity. There's a close circle around my husband and I and around our family and I guard it carefully.

  8. erinbaderin

    pomelo / 5573 posts

    @Orchid: I don't think assuming men and women can have platonic relationships is hip or politically correct. I'm pretty sure divorce is not caused having friends of the opposite sex. I don't think my husband having female friends has the slightest potential to endanger our marriage because we love each other, he doesn't love them.

    @Anagram: I guess I don't even see the problem with having opposite sex friends who would be interested in something more. When I was in university I had a good male friend that yeah, I totally had a crush on. But I also really liked him as a person. He had a girlfriend. I knew that, and never would have tried anything. He didn't know I liked him (or at least I never told him) but as long as I respected his relationship and he respected his relationship, I don't see the problem of still being friends. If somebody is ONLY friends with you because they're hoping for something more, that's different.

  9. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @erinbaderin: agreed, and I'd be willing to bet the largest reason the divorce rate is so much higher these days is the simple fact that divorce is far more acceptable. I doubt there's a significantly larger number cheating these days, people just didn't get divorced over it in previous generations.

    We don't have any rules, I trust my husband, even if someone were to hit on him. Takes two to tango.

  10. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @MrsSCB: totally agree re: divorce. Most of the people I know who are divorced never should have gotten married in the first place because their relationship was totally dysfunctional beforehand. I don't think looking at divorce rates is really relevant to the conversation of whether or not opposite friends are okay. If someone's going to cheat, the rule isn't going to stop them. I'd much prefer my husband doesn't do anything shady because he respects me and our marriage, not because we made a rule about it. I don't know explicit rules as adults just seems so out there and controlling to me. I thought that's kind of what our vows were for?!

  11. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @catomd00: good point! I would much rather my husband say, "I'm not going to cheat because I respect my wife and I don't want to" than "I won't cheat because my wife told me not to be alone with another woman." If the second one were the case, we'd still have problems to deal with.

  12. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @catomd00: have you not had any conversations about your vows? I thought most people discussed situations of sickness, and finances and basic marriage expectations surrounding 'in good times and in bad'. Why is it bad to discuss your vows - I honestly thought that was a normal thing most people did prior to marriage. But I guess whether it's typical or not I think it's a healthy thing to do.

  13. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @Maysprout: I guess I see a difference between discussing vows and making rules. We had plenty of conversations about hypothetical situations to make sure we were on the same page. But none of that feels to me like making rules about what we can or cannot do. Idk for me, It would be a total red flag if my husband ever came to me and told me he wasn't comfortable with me having friends of the opposite sex. To each their own and everyone does what works for them, I just can't wrap my head around it. I've had exes say just that and they were actually the ones being unfaithful, so maybe that's why I just don't buy into "rules" protecting relationships.

  14. hb3233

    cherry / 229 posts

    Lol, when I read the OP I thought it was referring to kids, like no way am I letting my 13 year old hang out with a boy without adult supervision! I had lots of rules like that as a kid, I guess that should be a separate thread

    We don't have any rules, I think DH would see it as controlling, he is very independent and hates it when I tell him what to do. And I completely trust him. But I have no issues with those who do have rules - whatever works best for the specific situation!

  15. Meowkers

    persimmon / 1364 posts

    No rules.

  16. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @catomd00: I think expectations are a type of rule. Different couples have different definitions of flirting and cheating and what makes them jealous and most couples I think have discussed those things.

  17. Truth Bombs

    grapefruit / 4321 posts

    Don't have sex with them. Does that count?

    We trust each other completely. And our marriage is pretty kick ass. Neither of us has anything to worry about.

  18. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    I'm in the camp of do not care one bit. I was raised conservative and it was a HUGE no-no to be alone with someone of the opposite sex, but now that I've moved away from that mindset it just seems really silly. The only time I wouldn't want to be alone with a man is if he gave me a bad vibe/creeped me out. And I don't care who DH is with at all.

  19. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    @Maysprout: We've never discussed our vows. I don't even know what we said! DH says I promised to obey, and we did get married in the church so that's a possibility. He's not dumb enough to try to enforce that though! Beyond that, really, we've never discussed what "in good times and in bad" means to us. I mean, we discuss finances, but that's just something that comes up.

  20. PawPrints

    pomegranate / 3658 posts

    Such a weird concept to me. Like, it kind of seems like saying the only thing stopping you from cheating on your spouse is a rule explicitly forbidding you from doing so? We don't need rules, we are faithful because we want to be faithful. That's like the definition of marriage, to me.

  21. Eko

    nectarine / 2148 posts

    @hb3233: I totally thought the same thing, lol.

    No rules but we haven't had to have any. I have friendships that were established prior to meeting DH and those aren't an issue. I work in a female dominated work environment and DH works in a male dominated environment. So, we don't have much opportunity to make new friends where this situation could come up. I think for us, since we are so busy and rarely have time for anything, and DH doesn't have many close friends (none of them are women) I would probably not be ok with it. Not because I'm not ok with the idea that men can't be alone with women but because it is out of characteristic for us. Sometimes these things are dependent upon the situation.

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