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I'm starting to feel strong kicks/punches now at 29 week, enough to make my shirt/dress move and enough for DH to see from across the couch. I consider these "real kicks" started around 25 weeks maybe? Otherwise I just considered everything else her rolling/flip floping as she didn't have enough power to really kick with her legs.

Yup a lot of my kicks still feel like that too (I'm 22 weeks). Every now and then if I'm lying down and focused I'll feel a good jab. But otherwise, the movements are a lot more subtle than I expected them to be. My baby likes to flip flop so sometimes the feelings are up high by my belly button and then other times super low by my cervix.

my first kicks felt like little muscle spasms, too!

Yes those sound like kicks. I would say they feel like muscle twitches at first and the bigger ones feel like big gas bubbles but without the pain and the gas. Haha. By the time you start seeing your belly move, they definitely look like muscle twitches from the outside too! I am 25 weeks, as a reference point.

Now they really feel like kicks...they don't hurt though. Initially, they felt like little bubbles popping, and that graduated to little "nudges". From the outside, it often looks like muscle spasms if he's kicking gently in one place over and over. But when he gives a big kick, you can see the skin stretch out and then move back. I'm 26w.

Mine feel like nudges. If I press on my belly a little, I can feel the baby sort of nudge on past where I am pushing, like she is floating by. I've also felt a few straight up kicks to where I am pressing. Otherwise, it is just lots and lots of flutters and random taps, all over. Or I can feel her whole body move under my flat hand. Just felt one now actually! I'm 22 weeks today.