I'm just curious what NTNP means to you... Are you tracking your cycle? Are you still DTD around the time of ovulation? It seems to me like there is not much difference between TTC and NTNP.. but maybe I'm missing something.
I'm just curious what NTNP means to you... Are you tracking your cycle? Are you still DTD around the time of ovulation? It seems to me like there is not much difference between TTC and NTNP.. but maybe I'm missing something.
bananas / 9899 posts
To me NTNP means not tracking, not using OPKs and not scheduling sex around anything.
watermelon / 14206 posts
To me it was TTC, but without stressing out DH about it, lol. I tried to not care and pretend to not notice, but it was impossible, lol.
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
You are either having unprotected sex or you are actively preventing. It's pretty black and white to me, and to me, NTNP is just a way to make yourself sound more chill about trying to get pregnant. But you're still trying, in my book.
pomelo / 5820 posts
To me, NTNP means having unprotected sex knowing it could possibly result in a pregnancy... and not doing anything else to increase your chances. No charting, OPKs, etc.
nectarine / 2932 posts
To me it just means having sex whenever you want and no actively trying to stop it..meaning no bc, no condoms, no pulling out.
TTC to me is when you're actively timing sex for a certain time period.
cherry / 212 posts
To us, it was not charting, not preventing, but just having fun with our sex life..
pomegranate / 3212 posts
What I'm doing now sums it up to me! We're not using any birth control, just the fact that I haven't had AF yet (EBF). So we're pretending that's our BC but know that we could get PG, and we are ok with that.
eggplant / 11824 posts
@blackbird: ditto. If you're having sex without protection, odds are you're going to get pregnant sooner it later, regardless of how you classify what you're doing.
bananas / 9357 posts
To me it just means having unprotected sex with out doing anything else like tracking your cycle and timing sex and not caring if it doesn't happen.
pomegranate / 3212 posts
@yoursilverlining: I sort of think of TTC as more urgent though. As in wanting a BFP THAT MONTH instead of in it's own time.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
To me it's just having sex without protection. I think tracking your cycle and having sex around O is TTC.
bananas / 9357 posts
@knittylady: that's what I think too. Like if you are TTC, you want to get pregnant each month. For DH and I, we were NTNP and I would have been completely ok with not getting pregnant but fine if I got pregnant too.
bananas / 9899 posts
@yoursilverlining: Yeah but you are still not actively trying. There is definitely a difference between just not using protection and actively trying to hit days when you are most fertile.
Otherwise, wouldn't NFP also be the same as NTNP if any time you have sex without protection you are TTC?
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
I consider myself NTNP. It just means I'm no longer on birth control, but I'm not tracking my cycle or doing anything that would be actively trying. I'd like to get pregnant, but AF hasn't even shown back PP, so I don't think I even can at the moment. We're just having sex whenever we feel like it and there's no pressure to perform and we don't try to have it at a certain time of the month or anything. We're just doing everything we were doing before when I WAS on BC, but now I'm NOT on BC. We're not actively trying to get pregnant.
bananas / 9899 posts
@Reese: Natural Family Planning. Usually that terminology is used when someone is charting for the purpose of avoiding getting pregnant, so avoiding those days when you are most fertile rather than trying to hit them.
pomegranate / 3521 posts
@pui: I have heard of Natural Family Planning but get a little lost in all of the HB acronyms. Thanks. Good point.
GOLD / nectarine / 2884 posts
@knittylady: Agreed. When we were TTC we were on a strict sex schedule, because my cycle was all over the place due to coming off the pill.
Next time around we will probably try NTNP because I feel more confident about being able to get pregnant. However, I now have ovulation pain and more obvious O signs, so it will hopefully be pretty obvious when the ideal time would be, and we will probably still try to DTD around that time, just because our goal is to get preg.
grapefruit / 4213 posts
I agree with the others who said NTNP is having unprotected sex without tracking cycles or monitoring ovulation. I'm not trying to get pregnant, but I'm not taking the steps to prevent it from happening either.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3688 posts
First of all, I think any time you aren't using protection, you are "trying." You are either trying or preventing in my book - there's no grey area. (ETA: LOL @Blackbird and @LittleK - looks like we are on the same page here.) It drives me nuts when people announce that they are pregnant and then say, "But we weren't even trying!" I'm like, were you using BC? No?? Then you were trying...
Second, though, I am WAY too Type A to NTNP, so I have never done it, but I would say that NTNP means no tracking of any type (no charting, OPKs, checking CM, etc.) and no timed BD. You are just going about your normal life without the goalie.
pomelo / 5678 posts
There is no difference I think it is just psychological so you feel less pressure.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
Agree with pp who said it's having unprotected sex whenever you feel like it. Ttc is making a point to have more sex in hopes of getting pregnant, whether or not you chart, use opks, etching.
It's not reallyy style though. I can't just go with the flow like that!
eggplant / 11824 posts
@pui: IMO (and probably not a popular one), if you are having sex without protection, you know what the end result is likely to be: pregnancy. You can do things to increase your changes (timing, etc.) but it’s kind of black and white to me; whether you are timing or just doing it whenever you like, you’re engaging in a certain behavior that directly leads to pregnancy.
Sure, there is some degree of difference between just having sex whenever and checking CM, testing for O, etc. but I don’t think of them as entirely differently classed activities, like some other people do.
I'm not personally (for myself, I mean) ok with NFP as a birth control method because I don't see it as actively avoiding enough for my own needs (I don't want to get pregnant).
pineapple / 12234 posts
We did NFP for a year which I basically said was NTNP because I knew there was room for error (my cycles are always nuts). We would have been okay with getting pregnant but still had a few to do's on our list before wanting to actively try.
When the year was up and I still wasn't pregnant, we decided to actively try which just meant DTD more when I O'd. Then used OPK's and got pregnant.
bananas / 9899 posts
@yoursilverlining: Well seeing as it's virtually impossible to get pregnant if you don't have sex within 5 days before ovulation and 1 day after, having sex willy nilly isn't the best strategy. If you only have sex once a week, it's pretty likely you're missing that window. That's why many doctors recommend you at least try OPKs if you've had trouble getting pregnant before testing for infertility, because many people just assume they O CD14 and don't realize they are actually Oing 6 days later.
But you have to see how NFP is actively avoiding, though. Even if it's not fool-proof enough for you, a couple using NFP is still avoiding the times when pregnancy is more likely, decreasing their chances. I feel like NTNP is a mid point between NFP and TTC.
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
@pui: But if you say you are NTNP, how do you know when you are ovulating?
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
@pui: I'm just always surprised when people say they are NTNP and they know their exact O date. And if you know your O date and you have sex, aren't you TTC??
bananas / 9899 posts
@littlek: Well if they know when they are Oing, I'd say they are not NTNP lol. They are either trying or avoiding at that point hah.
pineapple / 12526 posts
To me, it's pulling the goalie and leaving it to chance. No charting, no tracking cycles... just letting the cards fall as they may.
papaya / 10570 posts
For me it means not using any birth control and getting it on when you feel like it , without thinking about cycles or getting pregnant at all.
I know that I could never NTNP because I'm just too aware. I'm a control freak - I would *know* when it was 14 days after AF etc.
bananas / 9357 posts
@littlek: I had no clue when I was Oing! That's why I consider it not trying, not preventing. But I can see your point of view and others that feel the same.
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