I always figured guys would show up on Hellobee after our public launch, but so far... it's just me (as far as I can tell).
On other parenting sites, I rarely see a lot of guys (if any).
Why are there so few men on parenting sites like Hellobee?
I always figured guys would show up on Hellobee after our public launch, but so far... it's just me (as far as I can tell).
On other parenting sites, I rarely see a lot of guys (if any).
Why are there so few men on parenting sites like Hellobee?
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
There are lots of men on all the stay at home dad sites. They don't talk so much about pregnancy, but they talk a lot about babies, child rearing and the challenges of being stay at home dads. I think they just like to keep to themselves
grapefruit / 4800 posts
If my husband needs a distraction while writing or cleaning he goes to a sports or news site instead of a wedding or baby site. I also don't think he's ever written a post on a forum. I look up obsessively everything about everything, he doesn't have that same urge.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
Another thing is he doesn't have a filter and usually says close to whatever comes to his mind. Although I think he's hilarious I don't think it would always translate that well on an internet forum and he'd have a hoard of angry mommies on him.
eggplant / 11824 posts
Well, I think its partly because women are the only ones who can get pregnant (save for the “pregnant man”!). I originally came here because this is my first pregnancy and I found myself googling “is X normal in first trimester?” basically every day. So, I thought it would be helpful to find a forum with other pregnant women/moms.
Its also unfortunately not really as acceptable for men to be SAHD as it is for women to be SAHM. On weddingbee/the knot/wedding forums, you see a lot of women who plan to stop working after they get married, assume their partners will provide financially, and/or plan to stop working once they have babies, either due to how they were raised, because that’s been the assumption they’ve always made or because they just want to. I don’t think its as socially acceptable for a man to say he expects his female partner to financially provide because he’s always wanted to be a dad and keep a home. So, in turn, you find less men who are SAHD, and the ones who are might seek out like minded other dads, just as most women are here seeking out other women in similar situations.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
@yoursilverlining: There's lots of women who work on here though, I'm mainly only on here when I'm writing/researching.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
At first thought, I think it's just the simple fact that women like talking more than men. Instead of talking, we type our thoughts on these boards. I think men, generally, don't share as much as women and that coupled with pregnancy being a 'female' ability... ?
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
I sent Rob Sr. an invite, because he wanted one!! But of course he hasn't logged on yet. Then again, he barely does anything outside of work, Fantasy Football, and researching whatever he's currently obsessed with (new Droid phone at the moment). He doesn't even really check Facebook or (gasp!) Xanga
GOLD / wonderful grape / 20289 posts
My hubby thought it was a site just for women. I mentioned something that Mr. Bee said the other day and he was surprised that there was a man on here.
hostess / papaya / 10540 posts
Maybe all the women scare them? Maybe they aren't big on sharing their feelings, especially with said scary ladies?
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
Good question and I think it warrants some investigation. I'll have to ask my husband later on, he's in the other room working on his computer and his stuff (mobile phones and photography).
cherry / 172 posts
It's the same reason too many men don't survive on wedding boards. Most women run them off when they give their view.
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@Miss Adia: Not sure if that's fair? We haven't had any guys show up here at all.
And a lot of women go out of their way to be friendly to guys on wedding boards too.
GOLD / wonderful coffee bean / 18478 posts
I think men would feel more comfortable on a site specifically geared towards, them, like how @Mamadopt said.
However, I don't think my husband would ever want to post on a parenting board. It would probably never occur to him to do so and it isn't something he would spend his free time doing. He also doesn't spend much time on the internet researching things for our daughter. I am the one to do that.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
I know that my husband is pretty private, much more so than I am. I don't mind sharing my stories, my worries, my fears, and any advice I might have. But I think my husband wouldn't feel comfortable sharing like I do. A lot of stuff he views as "personal" and I just don't think it would even occur to him to go on-line to post about a potential issue in order to get advice. It's the whole "men don't like asking for directions" thing, except with a much more personal thing. That's my take anyway.
hostess / papaya / 10540 posts
@Miss Adia: I have to disagree, like Mr. Bee I notice women being extremely kind and welcoming.
I think it's just intimidating for men to hang out in such a female dominated place and easier/more comfortable for them to hang out with other guys in places like Mamadopt referred to.
pomegranate / 3980 posts
My husband would much rather spend what free time he has playing xbox or just watching tv. He works really really hard all week so when he has time off he likes to veg out. Besides, he isn't one to talk about parenting, don't get me wrong, he LOVES babies and being a parent but it isn't something he really thinks or talks about you know what I mean?
cherry / 172 posts
Mr. Bee/Boogs-It wasn't meant to be an offensive statement. Some guys cannot handle being around that many women and some women get territorial when it comes to things deemed by society as a "woman thing"
Mr. Bee-You were a mod on Weddingbee. You are use to being around a bunch of women during a very emotional and stressful time in their lives. You know what to say and not say. Some men don't. Some men will say something from their view and a lot of women won't like it and voice it. Like some men (from experience on other forums and journal sites) will be torn a new a-hole when they ask a question that some other men can relate to but some women will gang up on them for having that opinion.
Case and point. I belonged to a group for 2006 babies. One man basically ran away when he posted concerns about his wife's weight gain. She was using the "I'm eating for two now" excuse and she gained 70 pounds in the first half of her pregnancy. He said he had spoken to the doctor about it and the doctor also voiced his concerns. The man asked how he could approach his wife in a nice way to tell her that she was gaining too much weight and all hell broke loose.
If he were on a male dominated site, it would have been a different result.
So that's what I meant. Men typically do not survive in female dominated environments.
persimmon / 1202 posts
I know my husband would prefer researching stuff himself. He doesn't WANT anecdotes, he wants FACTS. Additionally, he can ask me when he has stupid/insignificant baby-related questions. I can't ask his opinion because he doesn't even understand that 8 months is the average time for TTC, and he just thinks I'm a worrywart for looking at baby/kid stuff as much as I do (he appreciates it, but he thinks it's silly for me to do so soon. When I have an infant, I won't have TIME to do this!)
My dad is in the "experimentation" category - he just tries stuff to see if it works. My brother's in the "I know well enough how to take care of my child!" category. I think this site falls into the "asking for directions" category. While I'll call my mom to ask her how long/what temp to cook my lasagna, my husband will google it. If I don't know how to approach a topic with my husband, I ask friends/Weddingbee. If my husband is in a similar predicament, he just... never brings it up. If I want to know how to improve my chances on TTC, I research and ask. My husband hopes for the best. If I want to know the best type of diapers, I ask other women. My husband just goes to the store and picks up the first thing he sees.
Also, this stuff INTERESTS me. My husband is more interested in doing the dishes than he is in learning about early childhood development - and I don't think I've seen him do dishes on his own.
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
"Men typically do not survive in female dominated environments."
@Miss Adia: I haven't seen any reasonable men get ripped apart in the way you describe. What I've seen is more in line with other posters have mentioned: that men don't seem to be as interested in parenting sites (at least, ones that aren't just for dads).
Our experiences are basically the opposite of each other. You've seen men show up and then get ripped apart. I've seen very few men show up at all, and when they do show up they tend to be welcomed.
That said, it's interesting that several people have mentioned Stay At Home Dad communities. Will have to look into that!
cherry / 172 posts
I'm not saying it happens all the time. it just seems like they never stick around. I've seen men ripped apart for having an opinion on birth plans, circumcisions (where the wife wanted to do it and the man didn't or vice versa, the ladies always seem to take the wife's side)
I remember a man starting a journal on opendiary.com (where I've been a member since 1999) and saying how depressed he was because his wife decided she was going to have an abortion even though he wanted the baby. Almost every single woman told him to get over it (in a nice way of course) because it wasn't his choice to make. He never came back after that.
BUT there are men who stick around. SingleDad(with some random number) on OD still writes about his life with his son after his wife walked out on the both of them. He gets tons of support. He's not too bad on the eyes either. ^_^ Though on the same site, there was another dad that stopped posting because he wrote about how he hated being the bad guy because his wife refused to discipline their child. He blamed her for the child's behavior and a bunch of women didn't like that.
So I guess it depends on where you are on the internet.
GOLD / wonderful coffee bean / 18478 posts
@mrbee: maybe you would consider adding a "just for dads" section of hellobee.
pear / 1639 posts
I was just wondering if there were any other men on here! I would say its because women get pregnant and struggle (or not) with breastfeeding, so a "baby site" seems to be more inviting to women to talk about those things. I think if dads actually checked the site out, they would see there is so much more to it.
Plus, my DH isn't an internet person. He doesn't have an email, FB, anything. I am the one who does all the internet stuff. So I talk to him about things on here, but he would never come on himself because A) I don't think he would know how to create an account and B) I think he would be overwhelmed with all the boards!
grape / 83 posts
@mrbee: Maybe you could invite this guy to do a few guest blogs, he def has a voice.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
My partner and his friends all hang out on athomedad.org if you want to check it out.
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@tksjewelry: I've subscribed to that blog, and look forward to reading future updates! Thanks!
grape / 81 posts
I think a lot of men don't show up to places like this because they aren't welcome at other mom boards. At my last board, a mod PMed a guy over there who was posting about their journey to get pregnant because some people "didn't feel comfortable."
Yet another reason I love this place.
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
My husband wanted to join Hellobee cause I wouldn't let him look over my shoulder when I was posting.
I don't think he did though.. ?
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
I think it would be cool to have a guest blog by a dad! I know Rob Sr. wouldn't be interested in surfing the blogs of cool, creative, amazing moms just because he'd rather spend his time reading blogs about other things. He's interested in HelloBee because I am (and because he loves you guys, Mr. and Mrs. Bee and family!) but I doubt he'd ever surf here otherwise. But I bet there are plenty of dad bloggers out there that would be interested! I think that it's rare to find a man who's passionate enough about his wedding to blog about it regularly, but I'm sure it's much less rare to find a dad who blogs about being a dad!
That being said... please invite this guy to guest blog, and read this post... he is HILARIOUS.
http://jasongood.net/365/2011/08/day-215-approximately-3-minutes-inside-the-head-of-my-2-year-old/
cherry / 230 posts
@tina: Hahaha! YES! I love that site! I find myself laughing my ass off while reading his posts!
GOLD / cantaloupe / 6703 posts
I asked my husband if he would join, and this was his answer: "No. It's hard to say why. It's a feminine website, and I don't think women want their private information to be read by guys. I don't think they'd be comfortable." I told him that we'd love to get guys involved, get their perspective. He said he wouldn't be very involved, wouldn't ask questions. He said maybe when we had a kid or right before, that's when he'd have more questions.
If there was a section just for guys, he said he might check that out or be involved there.
He did say to get guys involved, advertising on male-centric sites might work.
He says "Guys just aren't as open as women about this sort of stuff, typically speaking."
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
I asked my husband, he looked at the most recent topics and said he had nothing to add. He also said if he needs advice, he goes for a beer with another dad-friend.
GOLD / pomelo / 5167 posts
Men aren't as "online community" as women are, I think. Don't get me wrong I know some men are... but my husband, no way. He doesn't have a cell phone and just started using email. (Dinosaur, yes!)
It would be nice to have more men... seeing they have a different way to see things and its intriguing.
kiwi / 718 posts
my husband loves his hunting forums - he's an avid poster when it comes to comparing photos of ducks with the other guys. and they also talk about other things as well - one of the guys had his dh born at 26 weeks, 6 days & have been posting about it since then on a duck forum nico's on & he apparently gets a lot of support from everyone on there, including my husband. I think it's probably just never crossed his mind to get on here & post about anything or read. he knows that I do it & that's good enough for him as he knows I'll share things that I find interesting. I'll have to send him an invite, though, just see what happens.
kiwi / 718 posts
haha, or tell him, I mean, to check it out now that the site is open
no more invites!
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