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@MamaCate: that is a WTH appt! What a hassle, but I hope you get some good answers soon!

So idk if I am crazy or not. So DH and I obvi have been ttc for just about a year…but then do you count the 6-7 months we were not "ttc" but "NTNP"/"pull-out" method before we really started TRYING or making it count?! So then really it's been since Feb. 2013. UGH. That's when I stopped taking birth control pills and wanted to "regulate my body".

So I'm going to my OBGYN thursday for my annual and I plan to talk to her. IDK if I can go to the RE right now with my crappy insurance…but maybe I should really investigate and look into it more and find out. I can't switch insurances until either October or January. So we have some time.

Now this month I am really feeling beat up by ttc (esp after last cycle!) and I just want to GIVE UP but not really give up because I want to have a baby so I'll never truly "give up" but mentally I'm just done. So then DH and I have been talking about should we go on our Europe vacation we've been dreaming of for the past like 3-4 years at least?! We've been wanting to go to Italy but we don't have a million dollars either. We purchased our house last December and did a million renovations and are still not done and still need to put money towards it but I kind of also feel like "when will we ever get to Europe?!" "Should we just say fuck it and go?!" So many questions are running through my mind the past few days. Can we really afford to go? But if we don't go NOW when will we go if we get KU within this year? We would maybe try to plan Italy for New Years for a week or so and just GO. Take a break from TTC the next few months and get ready for our big trip. IDK!! Am I crazy? Please tell me if I am, hahaha.

Or maybe I'll get KU this month and all will be good. But then I keep playing these "what-if" games in my head and I have to stop doing that!!

@nicole112: what's the harm in planning a trip? I wouldn't put it off, but would make sure it was refundable!

Just got out of my blood work appt, everything looks good. I'll bring those results to the OBGYN Friday. My regular doctor also drew up orders for an ultrasound in case my OBGYN isn't as proactive as I'd like. He fully encouraged me to be an advocate for myself, and to come see him if I feel like I'm not getting anywhere. Between my charts for temping, bloodwork results, and orders for an ultrasound, my OBGYN won't know what him him!

I suppose I should ask about an ultrasound, hsg, and cd1 and cd3 bloodwork? Anything else I should ask about?

@crystal: Yes, the cd 3 and 7 dpo blood work. That and the HSG will get you to the next steps, if any. Hope you don't even need to get that far of course!

@nicole112: PLAN THE NEW YEAR TRIP! My philosophy is if you don't just book it, you'll never go. So go for it! Even if you are pg by then that's cool. And if you're not, then you can REALLY enjoy yourself I'm so glad I got my two weeks in the French Riviera, Cannes, St. Tropez, Marbella, and Puerto Banus BEFORE settling down with the munchkin. I would never leave him for a 2 week vacay! But that was the trip of a lifetime! I say GO FOR IT.

@Crystal: We are just going through preliminary testing, so I can share our experience: we met with an RE who went through pages of info we filled out about our histories & they recommended an US for me, which we were able to do that day, & SA for DH (he was to abstain from ejaculation for at least 3 but not more than 5 days). I also got CD 3 blood drawn & an HSG on CD9. We are waiting on SA results & will go back for follow up with RE for her interpretation. Fortunately or unfortunately we're going on vacation Wed, so we have to wait a while for the info, but so far the people we've dealt with are very compassionate & kind. I'd love to get more info sooner, or even as it comes in, but apparently they prefer to interpret it all together & then do the big reveal. Hope this helps.

@lilyofthewest: congrats!!

@nicole112: Another vote for plan the trip! You only live once, you can't put your life on hold! Like @MaryM, if I'm not KU by spring I will likely be going away as well (only waiting that long to accrue vacation time!)

@nicole112: Absolutely plan the trip. DH and I have made a big commitment - time and money - to travel in our marriage because we love it and think it's really important. We had a pre-baby travel bucket list that we set out based on where we wanted to go pre-pregnancy (China and India) versus where I would be comfortable going while pregnant. We took our "babymoon" in Paris and I can 100% say that traveling in Europe while pregnant is SUPER easy, so I wouldn't let your TTC journey stop you from planning a trip to Italy. JUST DO IT. I will also say that traveling in Europe with a baby/kids is also super easy... so if you get KU soon and still want to go, no problem.

As far as your mom's advice goes, everyone has different priorities in life. If travelling is something you want to do, you have to just take the plunge. There are definitely ways to travel less expensively in Europe, so concentrate on those if money is a stressor in trip planning.

@Crystal: There is usually a "hold" time for the SA, so just plan it for a time at the beginning or end of your cycle. As for the HSG, most clinics make you do it between CD 6-10 - they want you to be completely done with AF, but they don't want to risk washing away an egg. I had mine done on CD7 and it was no problem. Your doctor will WANT you to TTC that cycle because there is a small increase in fertility for 3 months post-HSG. You may also have to be on antibiotics, just FYI.

I'll join this month... even though I don't know if I'll POAS in August.
Pretty bummed that AF arrived yesterday - even though our timing was very bad with dh being abroad during the fertile window, the little voice in my head/heart said "but maybe...". Oh well, at least I did not POAS.

CD: 2
Cycle #: trying since Nov 13, with a MC in April
TTC #: 1
POAS date: earliest Aug 31
Backstory (if you want): Timing is our big problem - DH and I live in different cities and only see each other at the weekends. Grrrr. Luckily, this will change next year!

@nicole112: I also agree with the "why would you stop TTC?"

For the longest time, I figured DH and I wouldn't start TTC until 9 months before I was due to finish grad school. But then I thought...in the end, what would be the bigger regret/mean most? Putting off a master's degree, or not having a baby?

I think it's a "to each their own" kind of thing because everyone has their own priorities...but if I put off having a baby and then couldn't have one, I think I'd be super regretful of missing out on the chance to TTC all because of a piece of paper.

@MaryM: one of my friends from law school delivered a week after we graduated. She took the summer and fall "off" and took the February bar. Doesn't regret it for a second.

@GoGoSnoGirl: Thank you for the info! UGH, waiting is my least favorite part. I will be sure to report back here Friday.

@septca: The increased fertility from an HSG might not be bad!!

How fast did they schedule all this stuff with you? Did they make you wait a while?

I will be seeing my OBGYN on CD4.... Would it be completely crazy to call and see if I need to get an order for CD3 bloodwork and do it before I even seen him?

@Crystal: my situation is a little different because I have a known medical issue impacting my fertility, but - no - I did not have to wait at all. By the time I saw a pelvic pain specialist we had been TTC for 6 months and she was like *why* did you wait this long???

@septca: @LindsayInNY: @MamaCate: Thanks! I may just go for it!

@GoGoSnoGirl: That's good to know! Maybe they wont be so tied to actual CD3 then. Thanks!

@nicole112: Dooooooooooo it!

@Crystal: Seriously? As if the TWW wasn't hard enough already, @KelLeeLeee: and I have to shoulder being the next people in line and we're still almost a week away?! Oy!

Y'all could pee way early! It worked for me. Correlation =/= causation, but hopefully my early testing luck rubs off.

@lilyofthewest: @Crystal: I try to hold out until at LEAST 8 dpo. (which would be friday)

@busylizzy111: I'm sorry to hear about the m/c. We will be close cycle buddies this month as AF came for me officially on 8/3. Welcome to the group!