Are the holidays difficult for you because of IF?
Any updates?
Are the holidays difficult for you because of IF?
Any updates?
pear / 1580 posts
Hello, all. I've been away for a little while, but I'm so glad to have the IF check-ins to come back to! Thanks, @Mrs. Polish!
I usually only see immediate family for the holidays, so it isn't too bad because they all know what's going on. It is hard to get those adorable postcards in the mail.
Here's the lowdown on me: Got off BC two years ago, got diagnosed with PCOS, had 3 IUIs, none of them took. Would've continued on to IVF but we moved and insurance changed, and infertility treatments are not covered! Major, major bummer. On the plus side, cycles are miraculously regular, but after 4 cycles with charting & OPKs, still nothing. Dealing with IF while getting treatments is hard, but dealing with IF without any hope of treatment in the near future is a new kind of hard.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to giving and receiving support (and distractions!) through you all!
pomelo / 5228 posts
Yes, holidays and family gatherings are definitely tough. This year, we have a big family event that lots of people are flying in for, and I'm already psyching myself up for all the questions. I need to talk to DH about just giving an honest (but not detailed) answer. I'm tired of keeping a secret for something that has consumed so much of my mental energy.
Also, we're Jewish (as are most of our friends and family) so we don't really get many holiday cards. My family also doesn't have a lot of babies at the moment, so that part is OK at least.
No real updates from me. My new diet is definitely doing the trick, and I'm working on trying to add things back in (yay ice cream!) I have an appointment with a Perionatologist/MFM specialist next week, and I think there is a good chance he will put me on Lovenox post-O. My ND thinks seeing him as a next step is a good idea, and I've already had a great impression of their office.
pomelo / 5000 posts
Being at home for the holidays is tough. I'm the only one without children and I feel like an outsider. Last year at our big Christmas dinner, we all shared a high point from our year. My mom teared up and said her favorite moment was finding out my little sister was pregnant--no mention of my wedding. Wah, wah, wahhhhhh. My birthday is around the holidays, and I think it will be tough this year to not be pregnant. I'm not bothered by the holiday cards.
I've been debating not going home for Thanksgiving. Either I will either have just found out I'm pregnant (I don't want to tell until later on), or that I'm not (and I'll have to work hard not to be the wet blanket). Both options seem tiring to me.
My update: I'm done with the injectables and am in the TWW. Injectables were tough the first night--taking Clomid and Femara felt like we were doing something just to raise our chances. With my thin lining and short luteal phase last cycle, it really hit home that we were most likely not going to get pregnant without medical help. I'm grateful for medicine and don't feel conflicted about it, so I was surprised that I had a night of feeling sad when I lined up all those needles. I'm not feeling excited or hopeful in this TWW, which makes me feel like such a Debbie downer. I'm taking prometrium twice a day. I'm hoping my husband will do an IUI next cycle--I'm really not sure I'll go through all the doctor appointments and injections if he doesn't.
@Ineebee: good to see you here! Well, I wish you didn't have to be here, but you know.....are you taking any medication to regulate your cycles, or have they straightened out on their own?
@Mrs. Polish: thanks for getting us going. How are you doing? What are the holidays like for you?
@mrs.someone: yay for ice cream is right. I'm a fan of Ben and jerry's coffee toffee, the peanut butter cup, and their greek yogurt flavors (banana and raspberry/chocolate). Clearly, I'm a big ice cream fan. I'm so glad the hard work of that diet is paying off for you! I'm eager to hear what the new doc has to say. Is that on Tue. or Wed?
pomelo / 5228 posts
@Happygal: I feel ya on not wanting to go home for Thanksgiving. My family is all here, so no choice! Lets fantasize about an HB IF Thanksgiving?
I was searching for GF Cookies & Cream, but last night I didn't want to go all the way to the grocery store that most likely had it so I ended up settling for Strawberry. Buy it was SO yummy, especially since I've been somewhat fruit-restricted
My appointment is Tuesday morning.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
Thankfully I don't have a hard time with the holidays. There aren't many babies around so that probably helps. Also, we are open about our struggles so we don't get any awkward questions.
I have my first FET related appointment next week. I just ordered some more lupron and endometrin. Here we go again!
blogger / coconut / 8306 posts
The holidays don't really bother me. The clomid makes me not feel myself, so I'm not sure if we will skip next month or if I'll just take femara & hope I don't have side effects. I don't want my mood to ruin the holidays.
I'm taking OPKs starting tomorrow & will hve bloodwork and ultrasound next week. Trigger & progesterone are added into this months cycle.
eggplant / 11408 posts
Popping in to say hi to everyone! I hope that you are all well
I'm hanging in here-sitting at 19w1d, and we made it through our anatomy scan while still being TG. I was worried, but we made it!
@Leialou: @Mrs. Jump Rope: exciting!!
eggplant / 11861 posts
So far holidays have not been difficult, but I find myself thinking of things I would do with kiddos for the holidays, I am lucky that I teach 1 st grade so I get to do "fun" holiday things with them :))
With that being said. ..... I'd LOVE to be PG this holiday season. .... wouldn't we all
Update: 12DPIUI feeling ok, had pains in lower stomach a couple days ago, sore nipples, but can't help but think that is from Crinone...but I had 2 people tell me today I looked different and flushed.... and they have no idea I'm in the TWW........ sounds crsxy but I'm hoping that is a good sign :))))))
eggplant / 11861 posts
@ineebee: INSURANCE SUCKS! I'M so sorry you are dealing with that, Yay, to cycles becoming more regular
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
@Mrs.Someone: so happy to hear the diet is helping!
@Happygal: I'm not really sure yet what the holidays will be like. I took them very hard the past 4 years, and this year I'm hoping we won't be so busy that we can't enjoy them. Fingers crossed for this cycle. It's so hard to be positive all the time.
@LovelyPlum: 19wk! Woo hoo!
nectarine / 2433 posts
The holidays are usually a mixed bag for me. My immediate family generally knows what's up and there are no little babies. We also get to spend time with my niece and nephew which both breaks my heart and heals it all at the same time......
The hardest event this year will be dinner with the grandparents because my cousin will be there with her new baby and my other cousin (who got married a year after me) is expecting and I feel like the discussion will revolve around babies and showers
bananas / 9899 posts
The holidays are going to be kind of hard, but since I can't start treatment until January anyway I am going to do my best to relax and not think about it too much. At least I can have wine on New Years now knowing there is no chance I'll be pregnant...
I had a single spot appear on Wednesday and some more spotting today... it's probably not going to turn in to a full-blown period though. I'm on CD59.
nectarine / 2433 posts
My update....not sure where to start really. I have been working with an ND and decided I would go back to the RE (with a different doctor) to see what they recommend going forward. I called ahead and spoke with the director who ok'd the change, was told it would be seamless and that it happens all the time. I showed up from CM and no one knew what was happening with my chart. I explained the situation, they had me sign the switch form and wait. Then OLD RE called my name and I started with the cold sweats. We get to the office and he sees the note in my chart that I have requested to switch.....awkward.....so he says he will go get the new doctor. The new RE comes in the room and immediately starts asking why I want to switch..."the other doctor is very good, you are young, you have lots of time, I think you should stay with Dr.X but if you really want I can see you"..... at that point I was near tears and just wanted out of there. We ended up doing Femera with TI (semi-monitored).
I have decided that after this cycle I will not be going back there and I have a referral to another clinic that one of my co-workers used. I was never really happy at this clinic but the incident last week was really the final straw. I was so humiliated and upset
eggplant / 11408 posts
@mrswin: I am so sorry. That sounds awful. Shame on them for making you feel awkward. I really hope that your new clinic makes you feel more comfortable!
nectarine / 2433 posts
@pui: I'm so sorry about all the delays, I hope you can get this immunity stuff sorted out soon.
@FaithFertility: FX that its more than just the Crinone. When is your beta? Are you testing at home before hand?
@LovelyPlum: So exciting. I hope to be TG one day
@Happygal: I'm sorry your not feeling positive. Is there a reason your DH is against IUI?
@Leialou: FX for you FET
@Mrs.Someone: Yay ice cream! My DH and I just discovered these orange creamsicle bars at Costco that are dairy-free, gluten free and no sugar added, they are made with coconut milk, best part is the box of 12 was only $5. I hope your appointment goes well please keep us updated!
bananas / 9899 posts
@Mrs.Someone: I know what you mean, I've been starting to think I should be more open to my family about this. It seems to affect every aspect of my life, and yet I try and hide it from everyone. People are already starting to clue in so perhaps it's time I've stopped hiding.
What kind of diet are you doing? I started a pretty basic high protein-low carb diet 2 weeks ago after my diagnosis.
@ineebee: Aw man I can't even imagine. I don't have any hope of treatment until at least January because Health Canada is being kind of a jerk, but it must suck even more when you don't have the option to have it covered at all. Hopefully your regular cycles continue and maybe things will look up soon. I don't really know how insurance in the States works...
@Happygal: That's rough. I think if you need space for Thanksgiving, you should give yourself that. Good luck and stay strong during the TWW!
@Mrs. Jump Rope: I have heard lots of good stories that people who had a hard time on Clomid had much fewer to no side effects on Femara! Hopefully it doesn't interfere with holiday joy.
@FaithFertility: Good luck!! Sounds promising! I like your optimism. I'm always inspired at how you remain so strong in your faith through all this. The last few days I have been really struggling faith wise... but I think I am finally ready to let God in again. It's so up and down and sometimes I am ashamed of that... Luckily our God is so merciful.
@mrswin: Hang in there. I was surprised when my SIL was pregnant that people actually didn't make it the focus of the conversation all the time like I expected. Hopefully that is the case for you too!
blogger / nectarine / 2010 posts
@mrswin: oh my. What an awful experience. I'm so sorry you went through that, and how unprofessional and unkind of the doctor to question why you wanted to switch. If you think it's time to go, it's definitely time to go.
bananas / 9899 posts
@mrswin: UGH. I got the "you are so young, you have lots of time" speech from a nurse at my RE the other day. So frustrating! That sounds awful and I'm glad you are going to a new clinic.
pear / 1580 posts
@Happygal: It was a total shock, but my cycles have become regular on their own! They're a little inconsistent (I O between CD16-CD26!), but my LP is always 14 days.
@Leialou: Yay for your appointment next week! Hope everything goes smoothly.
@FaithFertility: If people said that about me at 12DPIUI, I would be going crazy! Wow! And to echo what @pui said, I'm exactly the same way. I mean, I still believe for sure - that hasn't changed. But I get angry at God and I feel like it's not fair, even though I know in my head that that's not how it is.
@mrswin: I can't believe how the doctor's office handled that! How awful! Sorry that you have to switch, but I hope that your new RE will be way more understanding and professional. And sorry about your cousins... That's not something I'd look forward to. I hope it goes by quickly and painlessly!
pomelo / 5228 posts
@mrswin: Yikes, what an awful appointment! I'm glad that you're going to switch clinics, hopefully the new doc has a better bedside manner.
@pui: I haven't been more open to anyone but my parents yet, but I'm considering it this year. DH and I have been so busy though, I haven't had the chance to bring it up yet. He does know I'm worried about all the questions though.
The diet I'm on is called Low-FODMAP. It has nothing to do with fertility, its really for IBS patients. The idea for me is that once my gut is in good working order, that whole area will be a nicer environment for a baby. The diet is gluten free, and low in natural sugars. Oddly, table sugar is fine!
pomelo / 5000 posts
@mrswin: I'm so sorry. That is awful and awkward. I spoke to a doctor who said he always is encouraging if someone says they want to see someone else for a variety of reasons--I wish they had extended you the same courtesy. I'm glad you can go to a different clinic.
My husband doesn't like the idea of an IUI for so many reasons, none of which really make sense(at least to me). One thing he said was that he wanted to do things as naturally as possible and the fun way. I felt like that went out the window awhile ago! The more I protested, the more he dug his heels in.
pomelo / 5000 posts
@mrs.someone: I've been meaning to say that I appreciated you piping up on the "pulling out all the stops" thread. I think doing things during TTC can be good b/c it helps people feel like they have some sense of control, but self-diagnosing and statements like "I got pregnant the first time we used ______________ (product, sex timing, positions, etc.), so that is the ticket!" drive me a little crazy. It's not always that simple.
@lovelyplum: glad you're doing well!
@mrs. jump rope: any updates on the insurance saga? Good for you for being vigilant!
blogger / coconut / 8306 posts
@Happygal: no insurance updates, but freedom never shipped my trigger shot & I needed it for as early as today. I'd given my cc info on Wednesday & was expecting delivery today.
I'm so over this. So sick of everything.
pomelo / 5228 posts
@Happygal: Thanks! I'm glad someone appreciated it at least Just reading all those things to do reminds me of how stressed out it all made me. I know how they feel though, I was in that same place at 6+ months of TTC and was looking for anything to try (yep, we even tried that position once, not my favorite!)
Sorry you're still having a rough time convincing your husband Does he expect to just try "the fun way" forever? Sounds so frustrating. Go for that ice cream!
cherry / 195 posts
In the past, the holidays haven't really been too bad, but this year is going to suuuuuuck. My SIL is preg, and my grandma is flying up from Arizona to be with the family, so I just know that SIL and the baby will be the #1 discussion. Ugh. I'm so bitter about that situation to begin with ... Don't even get me started
No real updates here. Thinking about calling the clinic to find out how soon I can ask for Provera. I'm on cd29, rarely get AF on my own (but when I do it's between cd35 and 40), and I really want to get this cycle moving so we can do our IUI. I have a feeling they're going to make me wait until at least next week though ...
@mrswin: I'm really sorry to hear about your awful appointment. Those doctors were way out of line questioning you like that - so unprofessional. Definitely time to move on.
pomelo / 5000 posts
@Mrs. Someone: oh yeah, I had a whole regimen at one point, including certain supplements and mucinex on specific days, green tea, trying (and failing) to cut out all coffee, trying (and failing) not to drink any alcohol, trying to convince my body and soul that I was all relaxed and groovy, baby. Each cycle I would think, "This is it! I'm going to give it my all," then ultimately would fail, or be miserable, and not get pregnant anyway.
And......ummm.....about that position....I mean, I think I get it, but our bed is low, so I'm not sure it would work for us. Maybe I need to be more adventurous?
I've actually stopped trying to convince my husband about the IUI. We're both stubborn, so the more I push, the more he resists. If I put myself in his shoes, I wouldn't want him to pressure me to do something I'm not comfortable with, even if my reasoning was wrong. I want to always put our marriage first, even before a baby. I did email him a video of how hard it is for a sperm to actually get to the egg. I asked if he would share his concerns with the RE and can let her address them, removing me from the situation, and he said he would consider it.
@Ju_Ju: is this Thanksgiving you're talking about? Come here and vent! Why would the doctor make you wait? Just to see if you'll start on your own between CD 35-40?
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
IF during the holiday season wasn't difficult for me last year because we didn't go home. This year, I will be going home. My sisters and mom know about our struggle with IF and I think my brother has an idea that we are trying for a long time but he's not completely sensitive in what he says. I think I can bet money that when I go home he will say 'So when are you going to pop one out?' I know he is trying to be funny and maybe that's how he thinks the best way to bring it up without being too personal. I've texted my SIL and I don't think she gets it either. She's mentioned a few times about how she is jealous of the travel I get to do. I, then, tell her that I would give it all up to be pregnant. Then she goes on about how hard it is having kids and she wished she had waited. IF Fail! I think at some point I need to open their eyes on how to be a little sensitive around people with IF. I was being to the nice SIL and just giving her a pass in the past but she's said it enough times that it bothers me.
Updates?
I'm on CD4, and I started my femera dose. I had b/w done yesterday and all my numbers looked good (prolactin, E2, FSH, thyroid). U/S is scheduled for CD14 or November 25th. I'm going to start OPKs next week, if I get a positive before CD14, I'll come in for an ultrasound and trigger shot then IUI.
I've mentioned this on my other thread but DH is flying home on Nov 26th! Yup, we will do some crazy stuff the morning before his flight to make sure we get an IUI done before he leaves. Stupid late period messed up my timeline up. I think it's doable, though. Tentative POAS will be Dec 10th.
I am hoping I get a + OPK earlier than CD14 so I don't have to worry about doing the IUI before DH's flight.
I not that hopeful in this IUI but I'm just going through the motions. Still excited about a January IVF!
GOLD / pomegranate / 3688 posts
Hi ladies. I will likely be joining you next month, as that is TTC go-time (I have IF that all of this *so* much fun). In the meantime, I wanted you to know that I am following your journeys and sending you all huge hugs.
I also wanted to stop in to say this:
@Happygal: I completely understand what you are saying about your husband - mine was the same way. I think the best thing you can possibly do is what you have already done: ask him to talk directly to your RE. It took my husband a while to actually ask about IVF (IUI wasn't going to be an option for us), but once he heard what our doctor had to say and understood the medical reasoning behind the potential need for IVF rather than my baby-want pleading, he got on board.
pomelo / 5228 posts
@Happygal: Hah, I felt ridiculous when we tried it, I'm not up for being THAT adventurous.
Your solution with your husband sounds great. Coming from the RE it should feel like more of an expert opinion, instead of you trying to convince him.
@bluestriped bee: Can you ask your mom to tell your brother to leave you alone? That would definitely be rough knowing he doesn't consider your feelings. And remind me, is this your first cycle on Femera, or did you use it in the past too?
Also, someone just told me how much she likes Dr. H at your clinic, have you seen him? I'm trying to figure out which RE I would see next if the perio doesn't work out.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Mrs.Someone: I don't think I could ask my mom since our relationship is a tad different, but I could ask my sisters. They could somehow relay that message to him. Good suggestion!
As for femera, yes, I've taken it in the past. This will be my 3rd medicated cycle with IUI.
As for Dr. H, nope, never heard of him. I'm with Dr. L and I like her.
pomelo / 5228 posts
@bluestriped bee: Hopefully your sisters can make him understand. I was hoping your protocol was somehow different this time. Maybe 3rd time will be the charm, but if not I'll be cheering you on in January
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Mrs.Someone: They did lower my femera dose (from 5 mg to 2.5 mg per day) since I seem to overstimulate the last two times I was on it. I had enlarged follicles the month following my IUI. So next month, I won't be having an IUI, but it's okay because I'll be out of town for Christmas.
Also, they are going to push off my IUI to CD14 so the lining is thicker. My last two cycles, I did my IUI at around CD 11-12.
pomelo / 5000 posts
@bluestriped bee: do you kind of wish you could skip this IUI and move directly to IVF? What is your usual lining thickness?
@Septca: hello! Thank you for your comment--it really did make me feel better to hear from someone else who has gone through a similar situation. Have you decided to wait until next month because that is the time that feels right, or are there other factors? I think I saw on another thread that we live not too far from each other--I'm about one hour from NoVa!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Happygal: I wish I could skip to IVF but DH wants to try another IUI.
I don't remember my lining thickness.
honeydew / 7463 posts
Hi gals, doing my update from my phone so I'll go back and read everything when I'm at a computer.
Holidays are hard for me because last Christmas I found out I was pregnant the first time. We found out on Dec 22nd and it was so exciting. We didn't tell any of our family till New Years Eve, but it was so nice to go through the holidays thinking we'd have a baby by the next Christmas. Clearly we do not.
I think this will be my first Christmas without my parents too. First in all 32 years of my life. So that makes me sad. But with the IVF stuff happening in Dec I don't know that I'll feel like being around a lot of people.
Update: So yesterday we met with the RE to discuss the protocol. He went through the list of drugs and when each major step will happen and the (gulp) costs.
So I'm due to get my period next week, right around Thanksgiving Day. He's thinking retrieval in the first or 2nd week of Dec. Day 5 after retrieval, take the cells for PGD and freeze all of the embryos (if any). Then once we know if we have any good ones, transfer them the following cycle, so I guess early January.
The pharmacy already called today to confirm the delivery of my injectibles. Yikes! Makes it seem so much more real.
Speaking of injectibles, holy freaking expensive. $5,000 and our insurance doesn't cover them. Here's to hoping it works the first time! Trying to prepare myself that it won't though, so I don't get my hopes up.
ETA: Actually, our insurance doesn't cover anything. But for some reason the drugs being $5,000 floors me more than the other $12,000 or so for the actual procedural stuff. That just seems so exorbitant for drugs I have to inject myself.
eggplant / 11861 posts
@mrswin: Beta is Monday can't come soon enough. Best of luck to you and the other RE!!
eggplant / 11861 posts
@pui: Thank you, at times I feel the same way, it is such a hard road! I have my days, but IF is so out of my control its nice to put worries and hardtimes in his hands
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