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No thoughts here. Just speechless.
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Considering schools aren't supposed to give Tylenol without parental consent that's WAY crossing the line. I remember that even with the beginning of the year consent form signed many times my parent were STILL made aware by phone call if I needed Tylenol. I understand doctor patient confidentiality regardless of age but this is just too much for me for a SCHOOL to do that.
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I can't move past the whole concept of the morning after pill being constantly referred to as birth control. I mean, obviously, I get that it is. But if that is your only method of preventing birth, you've got your priorities ass backwards.
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@highwire: thank u! Since when is the MA pill birth control!? Why are they promoting this?
Schools need promote birth control properly and responsibly AND with the permission of parents!!! I'm livid *for* these parents. -
That is really scary. But I did know a girl growing up who got pregnant and was so afraid to talk to her mom that by the time her mom figured it out she'd missed out on months of prenatal care and she didn't have many options. If she'd had the option of getting the Pill or Plan B she might have been able to go on to college instead of getting married off and becoming a mom before her 18th birthday.
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@spaniellove: i get where youre coming from but schools need to teach kids how to approach parents and where to go to plan B pills. Nothing justifies just giving it to the kids....
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@TurtleDoves: Yeah definitely...I can only guess they're resorting to this because things are just that bad. If a parent cares at all, they can opt out.
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I think the main issue is that the nursing/public health care is opt out rather than requiring a permission slip. When I completed NP clinicals at high school on the south side of Chicago, we gave birth control to many, many girls. Their parents had to sign a permission slip for them to be seen in our clinic and be under our care. But the parents did not have to approve each individual Rx. Different states have different laws...
Considering 78% of NYC public students are on free or reduced lunch, it makes it difficult for all of us to compare our own experiences 10-20 years ago to this situation.
Also - lol that I have been lurking (pre TTC) for 6 plus months and that this thread finally got me to post.
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I don't have any problem with this. Its always preferable for a teen to be able to talk with their parents, but if they can't; I'm in favor of as many free and easy options for birth control, including the morning after pill.
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@yoursilverlining: I agree, I have no problem with this.
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@ChitownRo: yay for your first post!
I personally went to Planned Parenthood at 16 without a parent and without their knowledge or permission. PP checked me and gave me BC. They didn't have my parent's consent but *I came to them*. I feel like when the kids go to a public school it's different. It's not like these girls were seeking the BC per se...they may not have ever gotten their hands on it otherwise
it's so weird that it would happen that way.
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@yoursilverlining: @lemondrop: I'm not bothered by the sheer act of it. I just feel that the efforts need to be better spent making sure the kids are educated about safe sex, already taking regular birth control if they need it/want it, and wouldn't need something like the morning after pill constantly. But I know that is easier said than done for so many reasons.
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@highwire: I don't disagree with you, in an ideal world there would be better education and free birth control. I also don't love the idea of calling the morning after pill "birth control".
But if a student doesn't feel that they can go to their parents, the last thing they need is a baby of their own, and access to the morning after pill is warranted to me.
I hope to maintain openness with my kids, I don't want to lose that ability to help them if they need it.
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@yoursilverlining: Agreed. I have no problem with this either. Hopefully this will help with the dropout rate of teen girls--education could be access to getting out of poverty.
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@lemondrop: Nicely said.
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@highwire: thanks
After watching the Teen Moms and having a newborn of my own, I felt like I could barely handle him as a 30 year-old married woman! I don't know how a teen could do it without solid parental support.
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I agree with @ChitownRo that it's hard to compare our own personal experiences to what is going on here. I taught in the Philly schools and was disappointed to learn that a year after leaving my 8th grade class, several of the girls were either pregnant or had already had babies. Almost none of the parents ever showed up for parent-teacher conferences or back to school night, so they had long since opted out of their daughter's lives. This is probably nothing like the life we imagine for our daughters. But if providing easier access to BCP and Plan B to these girls gives them a chance to continue their education, then they should have that opportunity.
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I probably won't say this in the most eloquent way, so apologies in advance...It goes against everything I believe politically and morally, but I think its unfortunately a necessary evil. I saw somewhere (on the news this morning) that something like 70% of NY high schoolers are sexually active and there are like 7000 girls under the age of 17 that get pregnant. It is something that the parents should be addressing, but obviously they aren't. A pregnant high schooler could be considered disruptive to the learning environment of others-I think the schools have a responsibility to all of its students to provide an environment suitable for learning. If parents have a problem with it, they need to buck up and have that talk with their children.
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@yoursilverlining: I completely agree.
it's so weird that it would happen that way.
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