I want a Jersey Mike's #9 SO BADLY!!!!
Yay or nay?
grapefruit / 4492 posts
My doctor basically told me it had to be hot and from somewhere that didn't look like it was failing any health codes.
pomegranate / 3808 posts
Only if it's cooked. We've been pretty strict and by the book (for anything we're aware of). After 5+ years of TTC, I don't care how small the risk is, and if I'm more likely to be hit by lightening, I feel better not taking it right now.
cherry / 120 posts
I eat Jimmy Johns weekly, and my own lunchmeat from home. Sometimes I warm my own homemade sandwiches but usually not.
pear / 1992 posts
I've had a handful of subs/bites so far during my pregnancy, as well as with my last one. I work in food safety, and knowing what I do about the listeria risk of PLENTY of foods that aren't even mentioned to avoid during pregnancy, I've always taken this recommendation with a grain of salt. That said, I try to avoid the other foods I know have a much higher risk. And as said above - is the place clean and does it have a good inspection history? Do they sell high-volume meaning they are going to go through their meat inventory quickly and not have it sitting around? Things I consider.
I think about it like, when is the last time you heard about a listeria outbreak/recall due to lunch meat? I mean, the biggest recall lately was in ice cream and I don't see anyone telling pregnant women not to eat ice cream...
hostess / wonderful persimmon / 25556 posts
@lindseykaye: or romaine lettuce!!
olive / 50 posts
I ate jersey mikes while pregnant. My OB just said to make sure it was from a clean place. She also said basically what @lindseykaye said.. that the last listeria outbreaks were from fruit, icecream, etc and you dont see everyone restricting that from pregnant women.
nectarine / 2418 posts
@mediagirl: I ate quite a bit with #1 and he's a fat ball of perfection (to me!). And this one I have been eating Subway because my cravings for it and salty, junky food are almost uncontrollable. I think the main concern is Listeria right? And that's very rare- people thinks it's lunchmeat but there's randomly melon or spinach recalls for listeria. So ya never know. Get a sub!
@mediagirl: Yep! I stay away from pre-cut fruit salads (cantaloupe is a super risky fruit for listeria!) far more stringently than deli meat. And frozen veggies have been susceptible more in recent years, but these are likely to be cooked so it eliminates the risk if handled properly.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
I mostly microwaved or toasted the meat/ sandwiches, though there were definitely a couple times I forgot. I figured the risk was really small but had a hard time enjoying my sandwich knowing it was “against the rules”.
pear / 1728 posts
I did! The risk is so low with deli meat and you're much more likely to get listeria from a number of other foods.
persimmon / 1089 posts
I don't touch it early in pregnancy but I've had three cold turkey subs since hitting 20 weeks (31 weeks now). I don't remember hearing any type of recall of lunch meats due to listeria but it's in many other things like ice cream. I make sure to go to a high quality place that cuts their meat in house (aka not Subway).
nectarine / 2262 posts
Yes, the whole time. I think fresh lunch meat from a grocery deli counter, a sub place like Jersey Mikes or whatever, is fine and my OB agreed.
@lindseykaye: @mediagirl: I switched from Chipotle to Qdoba when I was pregnant because of the lettuce thing.
nectarine / 2972 posts
Yep and I didn't think twice about it.
honeydew / 7463 posts
Yes, and I didn’t heat the meat either. I just bought from places I trusted and used common sense that I’d use all the time anyway.
(Mostly in my first tri, for some reason I was obsessed with turkey sandwiches until the MS set in).
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
Yes, because it wasn't on the restricted list in Europe.
I always eat the kind that is as least processed as possible...for example, I will eat French style ham over the processed standard stuff.
wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts
Yep, I didn't eat a ton but I'm sure I've had it here & there.
Ugh now I want one too! There's a Jersey Mike right down the road from my office!
persimmon / 1367 posts
I did, but I did toasted sandwiches where I heated the meat up first to make sure it was well heated. I happen to love my sandwiches toasted, so it wasn't too difficult to make sure I did that every time I had some!
pomegranate / 3952 posts
I think I was more careful about it with my first, I always heated it up first.
More lenient with my 2nd, the occasional subway sub, or fresh shaved meat from the deli.
grapefruit / 4278 posts
I totally ate lunchmeat. I think it's so weird that lunchmeat gets called out specifically when recent major outbreaks of listeria have all been other foods no pregnant woman is told to avoid.... fruits, vegetables, ice cream!
nectarine / 2288 posts
I followed the UK recommendations for pregnant women. They're actually factually based and not crazy like the us ones.
I ate whatever I wanted basically from reputable places. Nearly all the risk of food borne illnesses is on your body not the babies, so to me not a huge risk. I can deal with fluids if needed.
nectarine / 2243 posts
I always remembered this “rule” after I had already crushed a sub.
@MamaBear87: this exactly. I ate and drank everything I wanted. Of course nothing to excesss. And I wasn’t going all andrew zimmern and eating raw brains at a street cart...but I did eat my way through a third world country and suffered no ill effects.
cherry / 128 posts
@lindseykaye: yup this exactly. I think reputable places that are clean and have no inspection issues are fine. I did this last with 2.5 year old and this time ~20 weeks and feel fine with it. Listeria is more likely to get you in bagged salad and no one is saying not to eat that to pregnant women...
cantaloupe / 6017 posts
I totally eat lunchmeat, and agree that the rules are crazy.
@MamaBear87: Listeria carries a risk of still-birth and premature labor/miscarriage for the fetus- even if the mother's symptoms are mild. Salmonella would act like regular food poisoning, causing stomach upset for mom but there is minimal risk to the fetus. I generally am pretty casual about rules during pregnancy, but listeria is a scary one.
@Silva: i meant food poisoning, but thanks for clarifying . I know listeria is riskier but you're more likely to get that from all the stuff they tell you to eat lots of, fruits and veggies so I just try not to think about that one while pregnant.
I hate how they use major scare tactics on pregnant women who are already anxious and experiencing something new
nectarine / 2805 posts
I ate Panera a couple times. I really think it’s ok!
@MamaBear87: I totally agree. The book Expecting Better kind of made me more scared of food born illnesses and less scared of alcohol! I think we are told to avoid stuff without an explanation or information and that feels very patronizing
coconut / 8078 posts
Yes I nicknamed LO2 jimmy John
grapefruit / 4570 posts
First pregnancy, no. Second and third pregnancies, yes. Sometimes toasted, but sometimes not. I always ate my sandwich right away, and didn't buy it from anywhere sketchy , but otherwise felt totally okay about it. Particularly once I was at a point where I could feel the babies movement, because somehow that just made me feel better.
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
@mediagirl: I’m pretty sure the two deli sandwiches I had while pregnant were from Jersey Mike!! Yummy
There was a locatio near a hotel I was staying at for a business trip. After I got back someone on here scared me to never eat a deli meat again while pregnant. The bee was a lawyer and handled cases where children were disabled and the root cause was deli meat.
@CatchAFallingStar: I don’t consider Panera deli meat since I can see the grain of the meat, but in that case I lucked up. I ate PB there all the time.
@Silva: my ob was actually awesome and told me she had to give me the official list but said in her estimation I should just use my judgement and not eat somewhere that looked gross. That made me feel so much better.
I hate the food recs and the fact that they induce/c-section mommas because baby measures "big" on ultrasound. Totally my soap box
pomelo / 5543 posts
Like a lot of things, I didn’t with the first baby but I did with the second occasionally.
pomelo / 5220 posts
I ate it. I was not worried. As others have said, the risk is food poisoning, which has not been coming from turkey sandwiches. Overall health wise, the stuff they said to avoid was healthier than the stuff they didn't have a problem with (i.e. I don't buy the logic that I should go eat a big mac and a soda but not a turkey sandwich on wheat bread )
pomegranate / 3192 posts
Yes I ate it and was never worried about it!
pomegranate / 3271 posts
With my first one, I was more careful. With the second, I was at Jersey Mike's once a week. #7 for me!
@psw27: Oh man yes I've caught myself thinking this too. I know that my fave chain sub is not quite as healthy as a homemade turkey sandwich, but it's definitely better than other fast food options available.
honeydew / 7622 posts
Yes. I ate it. I loved the book Expecting Better for guidance on pregnancy.
nectarine / 2461 posts
No. Hell, hell no. I read this nyt article and agree that however small the risk is for listeria, I’m not going there. Also not sure if no one saw it but there was a HUGE listeria outbreak in South Africa a couple months back traced to bologna.
I do have an occasional 3/4 glass of wine with dinner and feel absolutely fine about it, and I believe salmonella and other food poisoning isn’t nearly as risky. Still avoiding sushi for the time being though. @youboots: @silva: but expecting better specifically said to avoid turkey! Other thing I recall from that book that never gets talked about is avoiding queso fresco, the crumbled white cheese all over everything in Mexican restaurants.
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