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Oct 12 babies - Sleep

  1. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @mrskc: aww poor AJ! I second the saline drops and nosefrida. Also, a humidifier if you don't already use one. Hope he feels better soon!

  2. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hilsy85: Thanks. I don't have a humidifier. I think I will go buy one today.

  3. lepamplemousse

    cherry / 137 posts

    I've been a long time lurker but after 7 mo am taking the plunge to start posting more.

    @mrskc: poor kid! LO has had a few colds since starting daycare and its definitely hard to hear him trying to breathe.

    I also recommend a snot sucker like Nose Frida or Baby Comfy Nose. I've seen Nose Frida at Bed Bath and Beyond and Whole Foods. If you get a humidifier make sure you get a cool mist one like Crane. It's safer for kids and is easier to clean (you have to clean it every other day or so to prevent mold). What also helped us was elevating one end of the crib mattress to help him breathe better.

  4. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @lepamplemousse: Thank you for the tips! And welcome! I was looking at the Crane humidifier. Looks like my local Target carries it. Still debating it. I may try steaming up the bathroom.

    What's funny is I was just telling my mom the other day how DS has never been sick and I was hoping we could make it the first year with out sickness.

  5. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrskc: sorry A has his first cold! i found that putting L in her bouncer at night helped because it elevated her and she could sleep more comfortably that way.

    bleh. L's bedtime has become a screaming fest over the last few days. i don't know what happened! she used to be so good at putting herself to sleep, but now she screams bloody murder when i try to put her down. and she doesn't cry if i'm standing right by the crib. i wonder if its separation anxiety. she has never been one to fall asleep in our arms and then we transfer her - she always wakes up on the transfer. i don't really know how to fix this except for CIO but she is like...really screaming. i don't think i've ever heard her cry this hard except when she is in pain. boo.

  6. Kemma

    grapefruit / 4291 posts

    @SleepyMonkey: does she sleep on her back or her tummy? I found that A's sleep improved when I put her to sleep on her tummy (even if she still wakes up to nurse during the night!)

  7. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @Kemma: she is a back sleeper. i don't know that she would ever sleep on her tummy, she always has her head up and looking around anytime she is on her tummy! i've always wanted to try it but i just feel like she'd be confused.

  8. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @SleepyMonkey: Could she be teething? AJ would wake up screaming/crying, just wailing, for a couple of weeks and then his two bottom teeth came through.

    I hate seeing my little guy with a cold. I can't imagine what it will be like when he catches a bad bug. I had a nosefrida over nighted from amazon, so that should be coming today. I couldn't find one locally to buy. The bulb syringe just doesn't work very well. I told my hubby we needed one when I was pregnant and he scoffed at me. Now I wish I would have just bought it anyways. Oh well.

    We set up the pack n play again in our room. He was waking on and off from 8 pm to 10:30 pm. I nursed him in our bed at 10:30 and DH transferred him to the pack n play. Bless DH. He set up a little bed for himself on the floor so he could easily turn on the vacuum when he woke. I think somehow we've made the vacuum a sleep association for him. It's crazy how as soon as the vacuum comes on, he settles and goes to sleep. He had a little trouble going to sleep. DH would turn on the vacuum, he'd fall asleep, turn off vacuum, he'd wake up, and so on and so on until around 11:30.

    THEN he slept until 4 AM!!! You guys. That's the longest stretch of sleep he's had in months. Maybe the pack n play is our answer. If he wants to still sleep in that, that is fine by me. He's still all stuffed up today. Yesterday he took an almost 3 hour nap, so hopefully he does again today.

  9. hellobeeboston

    honeydew / 7235 posts

    @mrskc: aww, poor A - I hope he gets better fast! it's good he's sleeping, that should help him recover from this cold. I am a big Nose Frieda fan, I definitely think it gets more out, as long as you suck pretty hard, and it's easier to clean. Maybe the pack n play is it for you guys! Is the vacuum super loud? Or just a dull roar sound? We use a Vornado fan, they're actually pretty loud, and I think LO is used to it now so we have to tote it around if we travel, but it's easier than a vacuum!

  10. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @mrskc: I agree, maybe he just like the pack n play! That's awesome tho! Hope he feels better soon.

  11. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hellobeeboston: The vacuum is pretty loud. We also have a Marpac Dohm white noise machine going all night, plus a ceiling fan. Something about the vacuum soothes him to sleep. We used to use it a lot from 3-4 months to get him to sleep and on and off since then. Trying to get away from it, but we keep coming back to it to get him to sleep.

    @hilsy85: I hope so. If we can get 4+ hour stretches out of him in the pack n play, that would be amazing.

  12. hellobeeboston

    honeydew / 7235 posts

    @mrskc: how'd he do last night?! is A's cold getting better? do you like the nose frieda?

  13. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hellobeeboston: Last night was rough. He's not getting better yet. The nosefrida definitely got more snot out than the bulb syringe though. We really struggled to get him to go to sleep last night. He finally went down at almost 9:30p! We were trying everything to get him to fall asleep and it just wasn't working. He got so tired that he cried himself to sleep in my arms while I rocked him. He was then up every couple of hours all night. And I nursed him every time he woke so he can get more fluids. Poor baby. How long did your son's colds last? I just want him to get better.

  14. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrskc: poor A the first few days of the cold are the worst. they are so congested and sneezy and uncomfortable when they sleep. hopefully its a small cold and you'll be through the worst of it by today. i've found that L takes a lot longer to get over a cold than i do if we are sick at the same time. and the cough is always the last to go away - it can be around for a couple weeks. but the sneezing and excessive boogers should start to go away in the next day or so.

  15. hellobeeboston

    honeydew / 7235 posts

    @mrskc: awww -- poor thing. Yeah, there isn't much you can do. His first cold was the worst - it was 3 or 4 bad days, then he started to seem better, the whole thing took about a week -- i nursed A LOT that time - you're doing the right thing.... i think it's best to get the fluids and they want extra comfort...

    The next two colds were shorter - the second one turned into a cough mostly (the first one he had a TERRIBLE cough) and the most recent cold was pretty quick maybe 2-3 days. and he didn't get a cough from that one.

  16. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @SleepyMonkey: I hope so. His poor little nose is getting red from all the wiping, even though we're using boogie wipes!

    @hellobeeboston: Hopefully we're past the worst of it. It's been 3 days now. The nanny said he seems better this morning than he was yesterday morning. I feel so bad that I'm at work and not with him. I can hardly concentrate at work. Especially since he doesn't take a bottle very well.

  17. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @mrskc: how is he doing?

    Ugh L has been waking up at 530 the past 3 days...I'm pretty sure it's because he poops and then can't go back to sleep with a dirty diaper. But if we change it, he's up for the day. @SleepyMonkey: I know you were dealing with poop overnight, did you find any solution?

    Other than that, he's doing ok...I'm still only nursing once overnight, and usually he'll only wake up once, but sometimes he'll wake up another time, cry for 3-5 minutes, and then put himself back to sleep...still so much better than how things were before. Now if only we can conquer this early wake up! Naps have also not been great the last few days...AGAIN because during his morning nap, he usually poops and wakes him self up! This kid is sir poops-a-lot!

  18. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @hilsy85: no solution just slather on the desitin/aquaphor before she goes to sleep and hope that the barrier holds up until morning! its actually working well. the night before, she didn't poop at all which was the first time that has happened in about 3 weeks. last night she pooped twice, woke up crying at 2:30am and then when she got up at 6:30 there was poop again. ugh, its the freaking solids!! fortunately her little tush is unscathed! i'm so glad the sleep training worked so well for you guys!

    L's sleep is about the same as it used to be. 7:30-5:30. now she doesn't cry when she wakes up at 5:30, she just rolls around and talks to herself. so there is no way we can CIO until 7:30 like my ped recommends because there isn't really any crying. i guess its ok because i have to get up at 6:15 anyway to start the day. so i just leave her in there until then. her naps still suck. 45 mins normally, 1 hour + on occasion. but she's a happy little baby so i'm not going to stress too much about it. however, it would be nice to not have to start a weekend day at 6am.

    haha she is napping as i write this and i just turned on the monitor and she is on her belly! sleeping! first time that has ever happened!!

  19. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hilsy85: He's doing ok. Still has a runny nose. After I nursed him last night, and he fell asleep, I laid him in his crib. He woke up and then threw up all over his bed. I picked him up and he threw up more all over me and the floor. He had nursed twice within 45 minutes, so I'm not sure if he drank too much. He also ate a little asparagus at dinner. But he's had asparagus before. But the other day I tried to feed him something else, and he threw it all up right afterwards. Definitely not as much as last night tho. So no more solids until he's feeling better. He went back to sleep fairly easily and slept 3.5 hours until 11:30. Then came to our bed. I wanted to make sure he nursed throughout the night so he could get in some more fluids since he threw up so much right before bed. One annoying thing is he started sitting up in the middle of the night. Yikes. That makes me a bit nervous.

  20. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hilsy85: Oh man. Poop overnight. how annoying. No advice since A is only going like once a week. Is that normal? He's not really eating a lot of solids. I'm glad night sleep has still been good for you. Hope naps improve for you!

  21. Kemma

    grapefruit / 4291 posts

    @mrskc: poor baby! Hope your little guy feels better soon!

    So Miss A slept through the night last night for the first time in months but of course I kept waking up to check the time...

    Saturday night A slept 2130-0530 and last night she slept 1930-0630, so it looks like her sleep might finally be settling down again. I'm cool with one night waking but two was getting me down and three is hard work! Who knows what today will bring though because she was up at 0630 and back down to sleep at 0745 when her normal wakeup is 0730 with naps at 10ish and 3ish...

  22. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @mrskc: how is A doing now? Hopefully he's better!

    So the 530 wakeup does not appear due to poop (he was up at 545 today and there was no poop in his diaper). I feel like I've heard/read that this early wake up can be a phase..did anyone else experience this?

    Also, I think we may be starting to transition to 2 naps a day...L seems to be able to stay awake longer now, and yesterday and today has taken two long naps...maybe once that's under control, his wake up time will be better! I never thought I'd be missing the days of 630 wake ups...

  23. mrskc

    bananas / 9357 posts

    @hilsy85: He's doing better now. Still has a bit of a runny nose and a little cough. His sleep has really improved over the last 2 days. He is going down easier at night and we're sticking to our bedtime routine. Monday night he went to bed 7:30 and came to our bed at 11:30. Woke up a couple times and nursed then was up from 4:30a-5:30 and then slept in until 9a!! Last night he went to bed around 7:30 and woke up at 2:30a!!! Then came to our bed and it took an hour to get him back to sleep. He nursed twice during that time and fell back asleep in the pack n play in our room and slept until 6:30a. But that 7 hour stretch is amazing! He hasn't done that in months. Now if we can work on the whole waking up for an hour in the MOTN thing, we'd be golden. He has also starting sleeping on his tummy.

    I have no advice on the early wake up since A is up so much during the night. Usually if he wakes earlier than 6-6:30, we try and put him back to sleep. A has also been transitioning to 2 naps. All weekend he only took 2 naps and actually took a 3 hour nap one day. It's so nice only doing 2 naps. I feel like we can plan our day better.

  24. Kemma

    grapefruit / 4291 posts

    @mrskc: two naps is so much easier to work with and build a "schedule" and plan around! Having said that Miss A only took one nap on Monday and Tuesday this week, even the magic boob couldn't wear her down...

    We're just about to hit the next Wonder week so I'm not feeling terribly hopeful about sleep over here, I'm going to try really hard to just roll with it and not get stressed if it gets bad, what will be, will be

  25. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @mrskc: thats great! Hopefully you're on a roll with longer stretches
    @Kemma: yikes! one nap! we're definitely not ready for that

    I think we're going to try to do the 2-3-4 plan...we tried it today and it worked well! We'll see how tonight goes...

  26. Tidybee

    nectarine / 2834 posts

    @hilsy85: whats the 2-3-4 plan?

  27. Tidybee

    nectarine / 2834 posts

    @hilsy85: C has been having early morning poops too!!!! Naturally. She is still waking to eat around 4:30-5. She used to sleep until 7:30ish after that but the past 2 weeks she has been lately waking at 6 with a big poop filled diaper! I think her tummy is getting adjusted to solids...and it was due to formula but we stopped formula.

  28. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Tidybee: 1st nap 2 hours after they wake up, 2nd nap 3 hours after they wake from the 1st nap, and bedtime no later than 4 hours after waking from the 2nd nap. Of course our little ones are twinsies

  29. lepamplemousse

    cherry / 137 posts

    @mrskc: I"m glad he's doing better. Sometimes I think colds are rougher on the parents than the kid.

    E is 7.5 months and has just started taking 2 naps. I thought it was an issue with teething but am glad to hear that 2 naps at this age is normal. I was starting to get worried. The transition from 3 to 2 naps was rough though.


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