Post about LO's sleep here!
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No complaints! Hoping we skip the 4 month sleep regression. She hasn't had a wake-up in a couple of weeks. Knock on wood!
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We're really happy with where they are at: they're STTN 7p-6a with a dream feed. They do wake up for a paci between 4-5am, though. Hoping to get rid of that bad habit soon.
Naps continue to be 40 minutes on the nose...so we have five rounds per day.
I'm grateful that they're on the same sleeping schedule and that we haven't hit the 4-month regression! Hoping to bypass that phase. Ha. -
No complaints here. We had a cpl.nts of wakeups two.wks ago.but he's back to 7-7 with an occasional 5 or 6am paci wakeup. He's doing great sleeping in his crib/room.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH we've been working so hard on drowsy but awake... and tonight HE DID IT. The blanket is seriously magical. He went down drowsy and woke all the way up squawking, I patted him and pulled the blanket up by his face and he nuzzled/ sucked it to sleep. So. much. freaking. better than rocking him for 30 minutes and up/down/up/down. Seriously.
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@scg00387: congrats!!!
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@MamaMoose: ack thanks. I know you all are suffering from loss of (or currently enjoying) STTN but I've never had that in the first place so this is huge
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She was doing one 7 hour stretch a night but believe we are in the 4 month sleep regression. She goes down drowsy for naps and night and she won't go back to bed with paci, only after eating so I think she really is hungry? 7-7 (+30 on each end occasionally) with 3 wake ups to eat. Doing 4 naps a day, 30 mins to an hour each.
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DS was rocking the sleep for about the past 3-4 weeks. He went down around 7:30-8 very easily and would wake up around 5 or so. All we would need to do is give him his paci and he would go back down until I woke up at 7:30 to get ready for daycare. We jokingly called it the pacifier snooze button on the baby alarm clock. However, ever since last week, I believe we have hit the 4 month regression. To be fair, we had also just swaddle weaned him but he took to that so well so I was hoping we could pass this over. He must be going through a growth spurt as he's now getting up around 4 am to eat. It also seems like he's learning to roll over and it's freaking him out. He woke up last night and started to scream. I got him and noted that he was on his side. I don't know if he just didn't like that or if he all of a sudden got really hungry. Either way, I hope this phase passes and we can go back to our nice long stretches of sleep.
I have to say, I was impressed by how easily he took to swaddle weaning. He goes down just as easy at night but he's a little harder to put down for naps. I think the swaddle helped him know that it was time to sleep so now he has to relearn that during the day.
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@scg00387: yay, great stuff!
A still STTN but getting her down takes some serious time.
Who does the bedtime routine? DH and I both bath A, both read story, then he puts her in her sleepsack and brings her to me in the bedroom. From that point on, all she wants is me and she'll howl if DH holds her after that. She proper loves her daddy but at bedtime she's all about her mummy and I'm really not sure how to fix it... Any ideas? It's literally the only time of day she cries!
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@MUI831: that's awesome swaddle-weaning went so well!
@travelgirl1: DH does bath and book, then I come in and nurse and put him down. My son is the same exact way - for whatever reason at night he freaks if DH tries to put him down. In the middle of the night it's not an issue, but before he is asleep it's a no go. We've just avoided the issue since I'm already nursing him, it's just easier.
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@travelgirl1: All through the night LO wants NOTHING to do with her dad. It's all mama all the time. I think you just have to roll with it and try to take it as a compliment.
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I'm actually kind of worried that I'm doing more harm than good as I'm usually the one that puts DS to sleep. We share in the bath time and putting on lotion and jammies but then I nurse him and give him a bottle to top him off and he's usually out. Selfishly I love it but I want to make sure I'm not making it harder for him to go down with anyone else. Mama needs a night out!
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I feel like I'm way behind everyone as far as sleep habits go
LO is 19 weeks now (20 weeks adjusted) and didn't seem to regress at 4 months as much as she had a lot of milestones all at once that affected her sleeping routine (swaddle-weaned, started sleeping on her tummy, started rejecting her binky, the time change). However I was hopeful that she might move towards better sleep, and actually for the last 5 days or so had woken to eat and gone back down to sleep within a half hour (2x a night). I can totally handle that. If I could rely on that, I would be so happy.
But last night? Last night I got about 4 hours of sleep and a couple hours of laying in bed listening to her scream and yell at her dad while he tried to get her back down after I had given up. Then, just when she was sleeping for about 15 minutes, just when I could get a good hour of sleep in before having to wake up for the day, our cat went into the nursery and slammed the door shut from the inside.
She cried. I cried.
And then I got up, dragged myself in there and nursed her again (because at that point it had been 2+ hours since I woke up the first time to nurse her) and started the whole thing over.I really want sleep to get better for us. She has never slept very much and it's always been this source of worry for me. I read about your LO's sleeping 12 hours at night and some days Ellie sleeps less than that in the ENTIRE DAY. Some days she sleeps as little as 9 hours total. That's as much sleep as I wish I could get! I know all babies are different and that maybe she just simply needs less (she is still generally a very happy baby when awake - only cries for food, a diaper change, or when tired) but really? 9 hours?
I just don't know what to do aside from planning on sleep training (UGH SO NOT READY). I feel like it would be more like night weaning though, as prior to last night she went back down to sleep after eating within just a few minutes - and was drowsy but awake in her crib. I will rub her back for a minute while she settles but otherwise we were doing really well...
/Vent
(so glad I have this place to come and get this off my chest - even if sometimes I am really jealous of all your awesome sleepers) -
@lindseykaye: You are not alone...I'm jealous of the good sleepers too! My LO has been so on and off, such a little tease.
We went from 7-8 hr stretches back in January to 4-5 hours in Feb. We had JUST gotten back up to 6ish when what i can only assume is the 4m regression started. She has been waking up much more frequently now. Last night it was three times, and she ate two of the three. I do think she's a little congested, so perhaps that is making it worse.
She can put herself to sleep pretty well right at first. But once she wakes up in the middle of the night, she just can't seem to do it. I have no idea what to do differently, other than let her CIO...but I just don't think I want to go there yet.
We are still swaddling too. I don't know how we are going to give that up.
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@lindseykaye: no you're not alone! LO gets ten hrs overnight on a good night and two hours naps on a good day. Short of drugging him or letting him sleep on me, there's not much more I can do so I'm trying not to stress. Pedi said if he's otherwise happy and halal thy not to focus on it. Hope tonight is better for you!
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@lindseykaye: you are so not alone. Two nights ago my LO slept 8:30 to midnight and then was up every fourty five minutes. I got ZERO sleep after midnight because by the time my brain settled enough to allow me to dose off she would start screaming. I just keep telling myself it's only a phase. I'm going to ask the pedi for some advice on Friday. I'll let you know if we get any helpful tips!
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@scg00387: @MamaMoose: @SLR: I am glad I'm not alone - though I guess I knew that on some level it's just that things feel so isolating sometimes, right? However I really wish you all were having better nights! All we can do is try our best and cuddle them when they need it.
Here's hoping for a smoother bedtime for all. We're having our nursing session now after her first bath in the big tub
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@lindseykaye: omg I have been there! It sucks! Here's hoping it gets better. I
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@lindseykaye: i think we have to figure out night weaning too, we haven't had a full STTN in over a month. she is starving when she wakes too, but i cannot for the life of me get her to eat more during the day. people say its so easy, just put a little more in her bottle. but she when she doesn't want to eat, she really refuses. you can't get her to drink a drop, she'll spit it out if you try to even dribble it into her mouth. anyway, if your LO is happy on 9 hours of total sleep, i think its ok! don't stress mama. i stressed out majorly for a full month about her naps because she wasn't getting the recommended 15-18 hours of sleep per day, but she is happy otherwise. i was so anxious about it, but she is fine. anyway, my point is....she'll get there...hang in there!! feel free to vent...you know at least one of us can commiserate.
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@travelgirl1: usually DH and I both give her a bath and get her dressed, lotioned, etc. DH reads her a story and then nursing session, then i sing her a little lullaby and she's down. the other day, DH said he wanted to give her a bottle and do the bedtime routine....and when i left the room after her story, she yelped really loudly like "hey, what the heck mama!!"...but she drank the bottle just fine...DH put her down and she cried...he picked her up and patted her, and then put her down and she went to sleep! yippy! i'm a free woman.
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@scg00387: yay, nice job on drowsy but awake!! i feel so victorious when we conquer something we've been struggling with.
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@twoofeverything: i'm thinking of doing a dream feed to get LO to STTN again. how do you do it? do you do a bottle, or are you bf-ing? oh also, major major props to you....twins, i don't know how you do it!
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@SleepyMonkey: ahh thanks! super excited, hoping it'll filter down to naps soon. also, i totally hear you on trying to get him to eat more.. he just purses his little lips at me! we've done a dream feed the past few days with a bottle and it's gone well.
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@SleepyMonkey: That's amazing, you should totally celebrate that freedom! Usually after she's gone down (and gotten back up again) I'll have my cup of tea so DH will hold her and she will stare at me and cry the whole time. I feel like such a mahoosive cow but it's my one cup of tea a day and I NEED caffeine. Plus that cry seems to be what tires her out as when she's passed back to me she passes out pretty much straight away and then STTN.
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@lindseykaye: Aw I'm sorry your night was so awful. You must be shattered! We have awful trouble getting her down, but so far (touch wood, touch every piece of wood in the house) she does sleep through after about 10.30pm. I used to get jealous of all the mamas who could just pat their babies backs or stroke their faces to get them to sleep at night since it would take us hours to get her down, but we are making progress in small steps. We're not ready to sleep train either. Sounds like baby is doing great otherwise though and if she's happy and healthy, good sleep will follow, I'm sure!
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@SleepyMonkey: Awww, thanks! I usually just sneak in there as quietly as possible, (I call it "Bottle Ninja Mode"), and essentially -- but very sweetly, of course -- shove a bottle in their mouths. I don't unswaddle or anything. Because I have two, I put them in their carseats and just hold the bottles for them until they seem 'done.' It's pretty amazing, actually...they'll plow through 4oz while they're totally asleep! Definitely try it.
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@lindseykaye: Totally there with ya. I find myself mentally tabulating how many hours of sleep they have each day, as if that somehow helps things! It's like, "oh God, they've only had 13 hours today...they've probably lost 2000 brain cells!"
Sometimes I feel like I'm TTC again. Back then, I just wanted someone to take a crystal ball and show me that I would, in fact, have a baby. NOW, if someone could just show me that my babies are, indeed, going to be okay in 15 years -- not, ya know, sleep-deprived zombies -- I would totally chill about it. Alas...no such luck
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@twoofeverything: I was the third child and my mom said I was a terrible sleeper and basically didnt nap. I survived
I hear you though!! I wish LO would take 4 oz at a dream feed the most we've gotten him to take was 2.5 and that gets him from 7 pm to 3 am or so... Fingers crossed hell stay aslee until 7 now, it seems like once he's woken up after 3 am its a lot harder for him to stay asleep until morning.
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So our new smoke detector went off for absolutely no reason at 3:32am. The babies were just transitioning to their "early morning" stage of sleep, so that totally jarred them, and they never quite recovered. Needless to say, neither did I. Of course, I hoped they would take an early and loooong first nap, but C has just started stirring at his usual 30 minutes. GAH!
OMG this is gonna be a rough one!
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@lindseykaye: I'm so sorry
you are definitely not alone! This is a very rough age sleep wise, and i think those who have amazing sleepers are very lucky and rare. hoping the wonder week or whatever that was is over with, the last few nights have been good. 2 wake-ups, nurse right back to sleep.
@twoofeverything: OMG what a nightmare! that is rough, i would have been so mad!! i have to be extra quiet and sneaky when i wake up for work around 5:30 as i know that any noise can disrupt her light early morning sleep, so i cant even imagine smoke detectors!!
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Thanks for all the support everyone! Happy to report that last night was much better than the night before. Sleeping by 8:30, woke around midnight and 4 AM to feed and went back down within a couple minutes both times. Woke at 5:30 AM and I was able to feed her and get her back to sleep within 30 minutes and go about the rest of my morning routine before she woke up for the day around 7 (with a smile on her face this time!).
One night at a time....@twoofeverything: NO! Oh my gosh I am so sorry about this. It's so hard when things that are completely out of your control disrupt perfectly sleeping babies. Ours went off when I made bacon in the oven (it does this every time even though there is no smoke?!) during nap time one day and it was awful. I can't imagine it happening at night though
sorry mama!
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DH did the entire night time routine on his own for the first time and it was a total success. He's so good with her. I just wish he would feel more confident about it!
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An on the eve of her 4 month birthday, we began the 4 month sleep regression.
Monday: Down at 830, up at 5 AM (Usually 6 AM or later)
Tuesday: Down at 830, up at 4 AM
Wednesday: Down at 830, up at 2 AM, up at 4 AM, up 730 for the dayYAWN.
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A woke up randomly at 3am yesterday. pacied and went down til 6am. He does that about 1x a week.
We have his 4 month shots today so will update his stats later in the other post. Where are your babes napping?
He still does the majority of his naps in the swing. Good news is that we can get at least 1 or 2 1+ hour naps now (he was a chronic 40 min napper).... but now I have to nap train in crib.
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@mrsjyw: At home, in the swing. I'm not 100% sure where she does her naps at daycare!
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@mrsjyw: all naps in the crib or in emergency overtiredness on me. He can resist sleep in the swing and carseat and has never slept anywhere else. I would pay so much $ to get even one hour long nap a day...!!!
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@highwire: Sounds a lot like us! They have been crying out for their pacifiers between 3-4am and then *maybe* going back into a fitful sleep for another hour or so before getting up for the day. That all used to happen between 4:30 or 5.
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@scg00387: Amen.
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Reposting this here:
Yawn!!!
My usual amazing sleeper is taking a little holiday. We have found her flipped over on her belly enough that we really need to leave her arms out of the swaddle. I knew this would end our STTN night's temporarily since that is what happened last time we attempted to swaddle wean a couple of weeks ago.
She was starting to have more wake ups right as her 4 month birthday rolled around, so I opted to just get this swaddle weaning done while I'm up because of the regression anyway.
Here was night one:
Down at 830, up at 1, 330, 445, 615 for the day.
Since she doesn't usually eat overnight, I went in, rocked her, have her a pacifier which we rarely use, and she was back down in less than 5 minutes. Could be worse I guess!
But dang, I need a caffeine IV to get through work today.
sorry mama!
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