grapefruit / 4006 posts
@2PeasinaPod: from what I've read on the internet, baby wise is kind of controversial because it tells people to start CIO right from the start and putting baby on a strict 3 hour schedule. I read the book, but the blog seems to put babywise, baby whisperer and some other sleep books to use in her techniques. Naps are definitely where I need the most help. She wakes up after 30-45 mins usually and according to the blog, its because she is overtired.
clementine / 961 posts
@CarrieLouWho: I'm still swaddling A at night. She still moves her arms alot in her sleep so for her first 2 hour stretch when she sleeps in her rock n play she is swaddled. After her first wake up though we co sleep and she is unswaddled.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Jenn23: I got a message from you, found it in "other" who knew facebook had an other folder for messages, I learned that the hard way last week and had messages from months ago in there I didn't know existed! I friend requested you, once you accept I can type your name into the group and you will be in no prob!!!
Formula went well, I nursed her before bedtime and through last night up to now, going to formula feed her again in a few minutes!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@2PeasinaPod: She will be 12w tomorrow! Good to know about pooping less, I just did her diapers (cloth, I pre-wash them before washing machine) and there were four poopy diapers over 2 1/2 - 3 days, so she's pooping, but definitely less, had a solid blowout this morning, lol.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@CarrieLouWho: We haven't swaddled since 3w......I am no help.....C haaaaated it, more hated her arms being tucked in....she was such a good swaddle escape artist!
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
Alright mom's I need some advice. We heard back from the doctor and she came back negative for milk intolerance, however I decided today to have our daycare provider try the Alimentum formula to see if it helped at all while waiting for the results. Our daycare lady says "she's a new baby" with this formula. Do you think
a) we shoudl stick with the expensive stuff for a couple weeks/months to see if it makes a difference and helps her gain weight
b) switch her to another cheaper Similac formula to see if it was just the Gerber that she didn't like?
c) other
persimmon / 1408 posts
@jessiej017 - I think it might be worth it to try some less expensive formula first just to see if you can save money. At least you know the Alimentum is working, so you can fall back on that if you need to. Not sure of the requirements for switching formulas around (do you have to transition or can you go cold turkey to something new?), but as long as you follow that, I say go for it!
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
@CarrieLouWho: That is very true, I have a couple cans of regular Similac at home that they have mailed me. I just don't want to cause her any more discomfort, that's my biggest fear.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@Beebug: Thanks for adding me!
@jessiejo17: Wow, tough decision. If you can afford it, I would use the special formula. My co-worker had to do the same, and while it was expensive, it was the only one her baby girl could tolerate and she thrived with it. Did you ask your pedi what he/she thinks you should do?
squash / 13764 posts
@CarrieLouWho: yup still swaddling for bedtime and naps! I don't know how he would sleep without it and I don't want to find out
@Beebug: our pedi said it's totally normal for EBF babies to poop less around this age...it's only an issue if they go like two weeks, or if they seem to be in pain. One of my mommy friends' daughters went 8 days!
@jessiejo17: I have no idea on the formula thing but wanted to say that I hope the cheaper one ends up working out! I can't believe how expensive that stuff can be. Is it possible that E's stomach might eventually be less sensitive, so even if you have to do the expensive stuff now you can switch later on?
squash / 13764 posts
@JessLC: that's so weird that she would wake up from being asleep because she's overtired!! Babies are so weird...
grapefruit / 4006 posts
@hilsy85: i know! i can only get her to nap long periods if she falls asleep on me and i just hold her, or if she falls asleep on me, i wait 20 minutes and then put her down. blergh. and she doesn't cry either, she just wakes up and fusses/whines a bit the whole time. so i don't know whether to go in and pick her up and help her nap again (so that she doesn't build up a nap "deficit"), or just wait it out to see if she falls asleep on her own (which of course is the end goal). but then she's awake the entire time and her nap deficit is just building! argh! baby sleep is so complicated. haha.
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
@Jenn23: Yes, our doctor said right now that the decision is ours, that the formula we are currently on is the best in it's category, however the next level up is more broken down and usually helps senstive tummies. She said that there are about 10 different things that it could be, and we just have to narrow it down to see what works, I know the expensive stuff is working so far, which makes it hard for me to switch to cheaper just to see if it works to save us a couple bucks.
@hilsy85: Yes they say at 6 months once a baby starts solids that their stomachs change and adjust and several are able to use the cheaper formula even after having issues with it before, so I will for sure try to at least do 1/2 and 1/2 once she's a bit older!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
C has been a sleeping machine today, we had our sleep in, she had a 2.5 hour nap this aft, too! Hope she sleeps ok tonight....selfishly! Maybe growth spurt?
So we bottle/formula fed last evening, 5pm, went fine. I wasn't thinking and we tried bottle/formula again for 8pm/bedtime, two bottles in a row was dumb, she freeeaked. So I bf'ed her, and did throughout the night and into today! Tried bottle/formula for 2pm, she freaked even worse, then crashed for that huge nap, so basically missed that feeding, but just nursed well, freaked on the 2nd side/my right side, ugh that messes with my mind.
I picked my sister up this aft, she is 18, looking forward to chilling with her tonight, I got her to watch C for me (while C was napping) and I went to get waxed.....little me time, though painful, nice to feel a little better about myself!
Hope everyone has good weekends!!
grapefruit / 4006 posts
@Beebug: 2.5 hour nap! man. i could only get 2 30 minute naps and 1 50 minute nap. and she is napping now, after failing to take a bottle. bleh. today didn't go as i had hoped. that pic is so sweet! its like best buddies!
nectarine / 2054 posts
@Beebug: Such a cute photo! I'm glad you were able to get some time for yourself today.
@JessLC: J also won't take long enough naps, he almost always wakes up crying after 30 minutes, 45 max. I can sometimes put the pacifier back in and rock him a little in the crib and get him to fall asleep again for a little bit longer. Not sure how to fix his naps!
@BlessedMama @JessLC: thanks for the info (and commiseration) on the bottles! Maybe we'll try some of the Dr. Browns bottles we have and see if he likes those better. I'm going out with some girlfriends on Sunday, so I hope he'll take something, otherwise my poor husband will have a screaming baby on his hands!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@JessLC: She usually doesn't nap that long.....and this as after a 9:30am sleep in.....she went to bed a little later tonight (9pm) so we'll see how tonight goes, I'm off to bed here shortly to take advantage!!
She also doesn't (ever) nap in her crib, I really need to work on that.
She had a bath tonight and tonight was the most she's ever played with her rubber ducks, it was seriously so awesome to watch, reaching, splashing with a purpose it seemed sometimes, and not all completely random!
pomelo / 5524 posts
@JessLC: you know, I think I knew that...I had read a snippet of her method, but didn't realize it was hers. We sort of fell into her method naturally after about 8 weeks with the schedule. Feed, play, sleep, wake to feed. It made my colicky baby a bit less colicky bc it made him sleep on more of a schedule. We were really loose with it though. If he was hungry earlier, we fed him.
@Beebug: such cutie pies!! I love them!
Ladies...night 3 of sleep training. We put S in his crib after his bedtime routine. Not a peep, and he put himself to sleep after 5 minutes! We're beside ourselves!!! Lets hope he stays sleeping!
cherry / 117 posts
I am a NY bee and would love to meet up. Sorry, I am being lazy by not going back and checking but how do I join the group? Is it only through Facebook or though HB?
@JessLC: This is our frst time getting to these long hours so we feel incredibly lucky! LO has slept over seven hours the last three nights! I hope we don't have the regreesion when goes to crib. I was going to switch him next week but DH wants to wait until four months to move LO to his room. Oh well! Hopefully it will go well then! I have the same thing when LO cries at night, it is more of a fuss. Against sleep training advice, I find a quick pickup and rock puts him right back to sleep (in an even deeper state). All this sleep stuff may make me lose my mind!
@jessiejo17: Thanks for the input. My LO isn't a spitter but gets pretty bad gas, so we avoid air intake as well. I think we may stick with the nipple until his official three month birthday. So sorry your LO is having so much trouble with the reflux. At least she is such a happy baby!!!
@Beebug: Love that pic! Absolutely adorable!
@2PeasinaPod: Congrats on the sleep training! Three nights is well on the path of becoming habit!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@JoeysMama: look me/my email up via fb themacisaacs at hotmail dot com, add me as a friend, I will then add you to facebook group, you can then unfriend me if you wish, but we couldn't figure any other way to make private/secret group as strangers and add people in! I think from there, the NYC crew of you (so cool you'll get to meet PS!) can/were messagine from there?
bananas / 9357 posts
@Beebug: what a cutie!
So many new people it's making me hard to keep up and reply to everyone! Love that we have such a big group though.
DS slept horrible last night. We went from sleeping 8-10 hours until last night where he kept waking up every couple of hours. The first few times he woke, we just put him back to sleep with out feeding him. I hope last night was just a fluke. I've been really struggling with getting him down for a nap. I think I might be waiting too long and he gets overtired. Going to try reducing his wake time and see if that helps.
I've got 3 week of maternity leave left. I'm really struggling with the idea of going back to work. Part of me just wants to quit and stay home with my baby. The other part of me isn't sure if being a SAHM is what I want. I feel like I'll just be throwing my whole engineering career away if I quit now. I'm in no rush to make a decision. I'll go back to work first and see how it goes. I just hate that I have a 45 minute commute, so I'm gone almost 11 hours everyday. I think I'll end up only getting to spend an hour a day with my son on weekdays which the thought of just kills me. At least I'll only be going half days at first (8-12). Anyways, sorry for my ramblings. Just needed to get that off my chest.
grapefruit / 4291 posts
@mrskc: Ack on the bad sleep, we're dealing with it too!
Miss A is working on rolling over and we moved her into the cot this week so last night she went to bed at 8pm, woke up at 830 and then spent the next 2.5 hours spinning herself round in the cot (although she was pretty happy and wasn't fussing or crying). She eventually started crying just before 11 so I had to feed and change her before she'd go back to sleep. Then she only slept until 5am and got up for the day at 8am... I feel so tired today! Thankfully she went down just after 8 today and has so far been asleep but she has only had four 30 minute "power" naps today.
@Beebug: Love the pic! How old is your LO now? I'm thinking I might like to try A in a bumbo.
@JessLC: I'm feeling you on the bad naps although A did have a three (!) hour nap on Thursday!
Lastly I just want to say that to all the mama's who have returned or are returning to work, you're all rockstars! I couldn't imagine having to care for a LO and go to work for at least forty hours a week, you all deserve gold stars!
grapefruit / 4291 posts
@Beebug: I've just friended you on FB, can I please be added to the FB group?
(or at least I hope it was you, and if it was, love your profile pic!)
honeydew / 7235 posts
@2PeasinaPod: wow! That is awesome!! As soon as me and LO are better we are going to start sleep training in the crib!
@mrskc: I totally feel your pain on going back to work...I live my career (not necessarily where I am currently working tho) and also have a long commute... I go back in 2 or 3 weeks. I have been looking for jobs closer to home (actually had an interview 8 mos preggo) and hoping that works out... As much as I love spending so much time at home I'm not sure being a sahm is for me.... Part time would be ideal, but not really an option. I sometimes look at J and cry a little when I think about leaving him but it will just take some time to adjust I think.
And like you said, if you go back and it's really awful you could quit and figure something else out.
Hopefully there aren't lots of typos - typing with one hand at 3:30am while J nurses.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@jessiejo17: That stinks that the doctor doesn't know exactly the cause, but it sounds as if the new formula is working great! That's good to know that once you start solids, you can most likely return to the cheaper formula!
@2PeasinaPod: That's so great he went right to sleep! Yay!
grapefruit / 4006 posts
@2PeasinaPod: wow, i'm so glad that sleep training worked so well and so quickly for you guys! that is awesome!
@JoeysMama: nice! those first long sleep stretches are so wonderful, aren't they? re: sleep regression in the crib, we moved LO to her crib a week ago. she was sleeping 8-10 hours before that, and then after we moved her it was 4 hrs/wake/6 hrs...then 6hrs/4hrs...the last two nights its been around 8 hours. so it only took about a week to get back to her good sleep stretches. it really wasn't too bad! and yes, all the sleep info made me crazy yesterday. i think i need to just relax about it and do the baby whisperer EASY routine and be more flexible with the timing, or else i really will just stress myself out.
@mrskc: sorry about your bad night of sleep hopefully it gets back to normal soon! i totally hear you about the SAHM/WOHM debate....it is such a struggle to be a working mom. i personally don't think i could be a SAHM forever either, and i like my job. but just thinking about going back to work makes me sad. i really love being at home with her now (most of the time!). i am going to go back for 1 month part time, then full time after that. eek. i think its a good idea to go back and see how it goes. a lot of my friends have said the first week back is tough, but after that, it is fine and they appreciate the adult conversations and mental stimulation! by the way, that is awesome that you are an engineer! i started as a bioengineering major in college and dropped it after a year because i truly loathe physics!
@Kemma: aren't those long naps so exciting! if she sleeps longer than 1 hour, i get so excited. its the little things these days!
i'm so glad i'm not the only one struggling with naps...i need to just calm down about it!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Kemma: She is 12w today! I think she's still a little young for the seat, but I stay close and only a few short minutes, I think the box said 3+ months, so I try not to put her in too much yet!
I think I just added you, let me know if not!
Maybe on there we should re post our real name with our usernames on the fb page, so many new names, just so everyone can keep everyone straight?!
These nights are killing me, she is waking 2-3am ish, just awake. Then falling asleep, then waking, I then feed her around 4am'ish, and it took five times of me getting out of bed (about 15 mins apart each time) putting her soother back in, I feel like I've created it, putting her down and awake with paci, and if she's not gone enough and spits it out, I have to get up and put it in again......I was pretty angry with her for it last night, even though I just put it in and go back to bed. What does everyone else do? No paci? CIO? Too young? Do I just need to be patient with this? She nursed great middle of night, and today so far. It's killing my sleep though, and has only been the last week or so! Previously it was wake/nurse 4am ish only, back down easily til 8am or so, been spoiled I guess? Cause this sucks, lol.
bananas / 9357 posts
@hellobeeboston: Thank you. Part time would be ideal for me too, but not really an option in the field I work in. Yeah, I think finding something closer to home would be so much better for me too. I've even considered changing careers and becoming a teacher so DH and I can be on the same schedule. I've been pretty emotional over the last week thinking about leaving my son. I cry too sometimes.
@JessLC: Thank you. Yeah, I do think I'll enjoy the adult interaction and mental stimulation. It's just so hard thinking about leaving him! I'll wait it out and see how work is going when I go back.
@Beebug: I think we should say our HB usernames on FB too. I know who some of you are, but those that are new, I have no clue!
squash / 13764 posts
@2PeasinaPod: yay glad sleep training is going well!!
@JoeysMama: I will add you to the fbook message about the meet up!
@mrskc: @hellobeeboston: I feel for you ladies re: struggling with going back to work. I'm a sahm now but we've discussed me looking for work in the spring and I hate the thought of leaving LO with someone else! I hope your transitions go well, and hopefully the last few weeks of your maternity leave don't fly by too fast.
@Beebug: Ack that period of being wide awake at night sounds awful! We don't use a paci at night exactly because I didn't want to have to get up and put it back in constantly. L is pretty good for now about gong backto sleep after nursing at night. Hopefully C has good nights from now on!
We are up in Woodstock and L just went to sleep in the pack n play...he seems to be handling the change of scenery pretty well, knock on wood. I feel bad that he was in his carseat so much today, he's usuall hardly ever in it. Hope you're all having a good weekend!
grapefruit / 4712 posts
Hey ladies. I am just checking in. Things have been non stop with us. DS is moved into his crib and sleeping very well! Currently I am visiting with my best friend for her birthday but I am not feeling well. I think that our eating yesterday has my tummy extremely upset. I am hoping it will calm down soon because I have an almost 4 hour drive home today. Wish me luck.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@mrskc: I missed your poster earlier. Sorry about your concerns about whether to work or not. I went through the same thing. Friday is my last day at work and I will be a SAHM during the day, but will find a part-time job at night a few nights per week to make some money, get out of the house and socialize. Our situation is different than yours, though, because I don't make good money, so most of my salary would have gone to childcare! (My husband is an engineer like you and he is the breadwinner in our family) Go back and see how it goes. As others said, you may end up liking it, but if not, then you can go with Plan B and stay at home. Good luck!
@Beebug: We don't use a paci at night just for that reason (spitting it out constantly). He only has it a few times per week if he is really fussy, but not during the night.
grapefruit / 4006 posts
how many hours of sleep do your LO's get in one day? i'm reading in some places that it should be 12-14 hours and others that it should be 15-18 for babies months. 15-18 seems like A LOT to me. LO would have to sleep 12 hours at night plus four 1+ hour naps which would probably never happen.
cherry / 125 posts
@Beehive: Any luck with the bottles this weekend? hopefully he took one!
@mrskc: Sorry you're having a rough time with back to work. I went back almost two weeks ago, and although it stinks, it does get a little better. I fortunately work 2 minutes from my house and my mom watches her so I can go see her and nurse her at lunch time. But just enjoy the time you have with your LO now and try not to worry about going back just yet (I know, hard to do). Good luck!
@Jenn23: Yay! Last week!
@JessLC: My LO sleeps 8-9 hours at night and just recently has decided to be a cat-napper during the day. She used to do awesome 2-3 hour naps but has now shortened them to 30-40 minutes. I would say she sleeps a total of 12-13 hours
I am bf and pumping now for bottles when I am at work and it seems like she is hungry all the time. How many ounces do your LO's take at one feeding? She gets 4 oz in her bottles but I think I need to up it. The dr. said we could discuss cereal at the next visit, but I am thinking she may need it sooner! Girlfriend eats on the dot every two hours, sometimes sooner. Last question (sorry for the long post), is anyone planning on doing baby led weaning instead?
nectarine / 2834 posts
@JessLC: LO sleeps 12 hours overnight...not all at once! She might wake up after 6 hours and just be reswaddled and comforted for a few minutes. She then wakes up to eat and goes back down for another 3-4 hours.
She'll then sleep for about an hour in the morning and 90 minutes in the afternoon, with little 20 minute cat naps here and there. So she is probably close to 15 hours or so.
Though she tends to have days like today that she has completely skipped her morning nap - ahh!
nectarine / 2834 posts
@BlessedMama: how often is she eating? C is eating a about 4.5 ounces every 4 hours.
persimmon / 1085 posts
Jay sleeps about 8 1/2 hours over night, feeds, goes back to sleep for another 3 hours. Plus a few 1-2 hour naps during the day. So I would say he is sleeping about 16 hours a day or so. And he eats 6-7 oz. about every 3-4 hours, but not during the overnight stretch.
pomelo / 5524 posts
@JoeysMama: Isn't it crazy how much there is out there about sleep training?? It's so hard to figure out what to use. I find that loosely going with a method works for us. I know babies like a strict schedule and routine, but there are times where that just plain doesn't work. That's when you need to improvise!
@mrskc: I know! I'm trying to keep up with everyone and reply too! There's so many of us! I'm with you on trying to go back to work. It's been really hard. Luckily, I'm easing into it with working from home 2 days/week. So if I need to, I can just go downstairs to see him (either my FIL or my dad are watching him while I work). I definitely get more done while I'm at work, b/c I can't hear him cry and go down to help out if needed while I'm at work! Haha...but I also have over an hour commute, so it's hard the days I go into the office.
@Kemma: S is doing the spinning in his crib now too! It amazes me how much he moves during the night!
@hellobeeboston: Good luck with the sleep training once you both feel better! Let me know how it all goes!
@Beebug: I just added you as a friend on FB too if you wouldn't mind adding me to the group!
@MrsRcCar: Hope you feel better!!
@Jenn23: @hilsy85: We should have not gone with the binky at night either, but it was such a quick fix and we got into the bad habit of using it. He usually spits it out once he's in a deep sleep though, so at least he's not used to it too much!
@JessLC: God I wish S would sleep the normal 16 hours for a baby. I would say he gets close to 12-14. He doesn't sleep 12 hours at night for us. He's closer to 8 or 9 and then two good 2 hour naps each day with a few power naps here or there.
@BlessedMama: S is 15 1/2 weeks and eats about 5.5 - 6.5 ounces each feeding. He's eating about every 3.5 hours now except for overnight. He'll get about 5 bottles/day.
I gave S his last breast milk bottle yesterday. I was proud that I lasted 15 1/2 weeks with breast milk from the freezer. It was a rough start for us with breastfeeding and I didn't think I would make it even this far. So glad I did. But I think S is happier now on formula. I don't know if it's b/c he's bigger and his digestive tract is more mature, but he's been far less fussy all day today...his first day of full formula. Makes me hope that his fussiness wasn't b/c I was breastfeeding.
Sleep training is still going well for nighttime. We're still trying to figure out naps. He's getting a little better at them, but still needs some help falling asleep. Nighttime, we do bath, bottle, story, bed, and he'll be asleep after about 10 minutes of fussing (aside from our crazy good Friday night)!
squash / 13764 posts
@JessLC: Lo sleeps about 12 hours over night, and then 3-4 naps a day that ranger from 45 min to 2.5 hours. So maybe 16-17 hours a day on average?
@BlessedMama: I really want to try BLW! I will probably end up doing a combo--making some purees but also giving him some table foods as well. My pedi didn't seem to know much about BLW which I thought was surprising.
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