grapefruit / 4321 posts
@catomd00: I responded to you because I think was extremely irresponsible and naive to suggest that the OP shouldn't be too concerned about the situation because apparently $20k "isn't that much" consumer debt to rack up and then hide from your spouse. If that's what you would find acceptable in your marriage, fine, but I feel pretty strongly that it's a huge breach of trust.
cantaloupe / 6610 posts
@catomd00: I actually agree with you - $10K is not the end of the world. I certainly wouldn't end my marriage over $10K!!! My husband and my family is worth a lot more than that.
No one is perfect. He had dental work and like @Mrs. Champage said - it sounds like it just got away from him. I would help him work on it, work on not letting the same thing happen again, and learning from the mistake.
In a marriage, you have to go through less than ideal things together and grow together from them. I think this is one of those times. You learn, you grow, you move on and are better for it.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
I think there are two things at play, the act and the reason. I am not so good at separating these two, but I know that the solution for me would involve being able to remedy them as two separate things...meaning, deal with the financial aspect by coming up with a payment plan and deal with the reason separately.
My last relationship ended partly because of financial issues on the part of my boyfriend. Had we stayed together, I would never know if the lights were going to get shut off and if I would end up coming home to a foreclosure sign on my front lawn.
persimmon / 1196 posts
I think a lot of differing reactions might also be coming out of how finances are handled in different households. To hide something like this from me would take a LOT of effort on my husband's part. He'd have to be getting statements mailed to a different address, hiding any payments he made through cash withdrawals and money orders, finding some way to explain the how he'd paid for purchases he'd made with the hidden card. That level of deception would be much more concerning than the unexpected debt.
apricot / 288 posts
Agree with others who have said this is just a hurdle to get over together. Maybe you can consider therapy together because financial issues are you just a reflection of other emotional issues. Help him work through this as his partner. Remember, for better or worse? This isn't even the worse.
grapefruit / 4455 posts
@lady baltimore: agree and I also think it has to do with varying income levels. There are people on here who probably wouldn't bat an eye at 10 or 20k and then maybe some who only make that much a year. No judgment to either but how much that money means to your family probably plays a role in how big that deception feels.
grapefruit / 4089 posts
@2littlepumpkins: totally agree. It's pretty crappy to say that 20k is insignificant because to some people, that amount is financially devastating.
grapefruit / 4136 posts
I would have trouble with getting past the trust, but I wouldn't just jump into the divorce wagon. It depends on how your marriage is in other ways, to me I see that as a problem that can be worked through. Debt can be paid down over time and if you can work through the trust issues from him being dishonest I think a marriage is absolutely worth it.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
when you consider the cost of divorce and splitting one house into two you're looking at considerable expenses. 20000 is a lot but when you're talking about splitting a house the cost is so much more both financially and emotionally. I hadn't commented but I've been very surprised at people throwing divorce out there because it's just going to increase their burdens in every way.
That being said I'd get to why he hid it from you and what he spent it on, I've seen people hide stuff out of embarrassment while it snowballs but I might have him talk to a financial planner instead of counseling if it was poor planning and embarrassment.
hostess / wonderful persimmon / 25556 posts
I'm glad you have figured out what you're going to do. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. Divorce would not even cross my mind if he was willing to pay it off.
grapefruit / 4321 posts
@Maysprout: the reason I would strongly consider divorce has nothing to do with getting away from the debt or trying to avoid the 20k burden. It's because it would be extremely difficult for me to every regain trust in someone who did something so selfish, irresponsible and deceitful when they are supposed to be putting their family first.
A lot of people are throwing out "for better or for worse" but in our marriage my husband and I take that to mean better or worse circumstances outside of our control. Not as an excuse to be disrespectful to each other and then label it "the worse" that our spouse has to stick through.
ETA: The OP has to do what works for her and will allow her to be happy and secure moving forward. But the question was "what would you do"...And I don't think it makes someone a horrible person if this isn't something they would be able to move past. It's a really big deal.
bananas / 9118 posts
Divorce wouldn't even cross my mind. I've been there- I ran up 5k in credit cards in grad school, it was very easy to do with low loans, low paying job, and high living expenses. It was before we were married/engaged, but we worked it out together and are stronger for it. It was an ugly monkey on my back, once it was out in the open I felt so much better.
We ended up getting a GREAT financial planner right before our first was born. She helped us sort out debts, savings, and college/retirement planning. It only costs us about $150 a year for their help and they get a small percentage based off our investments over time through the investment companies.
grapefruit / 4418 posts
@Truth Bombs: great and. I think it is incredibly irresponsible to suggest jumping to divorce, but I wasn't singling people out and debating their reaction because I don't care what other purple would do. Get over yourself. She asked for people's reactions, I gave mine. I never said she should do x or y, I said how I would react.
And honestly, it was never specified what hiding meant. Did she ask him for an exact number of how much debt he had and he said 0? That's different then if she never asked. My husband has never asked me for an exact amount of the student loan debt I had entering my marriage. He knows ballpark and knows I take care of paying for it and knows I have a great credit score. It's all he really needs to know as far as we are concerned. Every marriage is different in how they handle finances. I think you're taking differing experiences and opinions way too personally here.
persimmon / 1316 posts
I think I would want to get down to the deeper issues. Why did he have to feel like he had to hide this from you? What exactly was it that he bought with the other $12,000 and why couldn't this be budgeted and discussed with you?
I would be so upset and shocked but more upset by the lying and hiding than the actual amount of money. I would want to seek counseling and a financial advisor but I really don't understand the quick jump to divorce like others have mentioned. If the marriage was already really bad and this happened on top of it, maybe, but if you have a happy life together this could be fixed.
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