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  1. skipper2010

    kiwi / 597 posts

    @Grace: @Mrs D: Congratulations you two!!!! So exciting that our last August babies have finally made their debut!

    @Grace: I saw on the other thread that you ended up with a cesarean. My advice to you is keep up with the stool softeners. The first BM was the hardest part of my recovery. lol It was finally a dose of Miralax that did the trick.

  2. JamieLee

    clementine / 930 posts

    @Alivoo01: @.twist.: @StbHisMrs: I was just about to come on here and ask if anyone else has been having sleep issues. We used to get three to four hours overnight and three for most naps during the day and now I'm lucky if he sleeps more than an hour at a stretch. I'm so tired and the kicker is that he pretty much screams the whole time he's awake. We've been to the pediatrician and I'm trying eliminating a certain medication, then if that doesn't work I'm going to cut out dairy, and if that doesn't work, we're going to try mess for reflux which is what I think the problem is. This parenting stuff sure isn't easy!

  3. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    oh my goodness...they were not kidding about the second night being totally different then the first!

    After a visit from the LC yesterday we have a good routine established for feeding in the football position. K is a good nurser when she is hungry but is unfortunately a furious sucker for comfort so we caved in last night and gave her a pacifier because she just could not sooth herself and both DH and I were so exhausted we needed something that would work - and woohoo it did.

    However, she came and fed (well at 2am and not well at 5:30am) throughout the night but now at 8am I know she must be starving. As soon as peds is done with her they are bringing her by - hopefully she kept her weight up yesterday since we had a few good feeding sessions yesterday.

    I'm so terrified of going home with her today...so glad we had the second night in the hospital to get comfortable!

  4. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @skipper2010: Will do! They gave me enough for a week. Will that be enough?

    @Mrs D: Isn't it odd? The nurses promised me that night two would make me think that I had a different child.

    We got sent home early yesterday. They are so busy at my hospital that they were excited that I was doing well and wanted to go home. And so much better to sleep in a real bed last night and eat real food and not be interrupted by nurses all the time.

  5. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    Am I crazy that I literally am so terrified I feel like I am going to end up spending the night awake starring at her?

  6. delight

    pomelo / 5326 posts

    @Mrs D: you'll be fine tonight! Don't be scared! My first night home though I just dozed with her on the recliner. She wouldn't leave me and didn't sleep very much! It's nice you got rest at hospital. In our hospital babe stays with you so I did not sleep at all!

    I hear you ladies on the sleep issues. Liv was giving me some good 3-4 stretches and last night she was up about every hour or so I was hoping it was just a fluke! She's really sleepy today but I'd rather her sleep At night!

  7. StrawberryBee

    nectarine / 2530 posts

    @Mrs D: we did the same thing, except no one told me that the second night was way different from the first, so she screamed nonstop and I'd sent DH home to take care of the dogs...let's just say it was a long, frustrating, tearful night. But that was also when I caved and used a pacifier (per a nurse's suggestion when I was at my wit's end). Then the LC chastised me in the morning for using it :P.

    and aww, don't be terrified, it'll be fine!

  8. StrawberryBee

    nectarine / 2530 posts

    Oh, I forgot to say that we took E to visit my office yesterday. It went pretty well; not too many people held her, and since she was sleeping that kept a lot of people from touching her. We were there for hours, and she actually stayed quiet until we were out in the parking lot!

  9. Alivoo01

    wonderful olive / 19353 posts

    @delight: DS is the same way. When he sleeps well during the day or isn't as fussy, I cringe and don't look forward to the upcoming evening because I wish he would sleep well at night!

  10. Sapphiresun

    nectarine / 2220 posts

    @delight: same here. We've had a fair amount of visitors and they all seem to want to put her to sleep while they're holding her and then she's not tired at night time. People think its like a test of who she likes best. Now I just tell people if I want her awake that if they rock her to sleep they're coming back at midnight when she thinks its party time because she slept all day while I entertained visitors.

  11. Mrs. Oatmeal

    blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts

    Any of you ladies experienced a Wonder Week yet?
    The last few days, K has been mega gassy/fussy, wanting to eat a TON, and her sleep has been total crap compared to normal. Unless I'm walking/bouncing/rocking her, she's flipping out. We borrowed a swing, and she will tolerate that for about 15 minutes at a time, giving me *just* enough time to pee or grab a quick snack.

    Any advice?

  12. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    Woohoo! I survived and K survived! She ate 4 times and slept for 3 three hour intervals...which I was so pleased for! I found that she loves being swaddled tightly after eating and with a paci passes right out! Pure bliss for mom!

    We're introducing our dog to her today - so once that is over and goes well I'll feel totally relieved!

  13. Mrs. Oatmeal

    blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts

    @Mrs D: Hooray for surviving! You're doing great!

  14. StrawberryBee

    nectarine / 2530 posts

    @redsmarties: I don't think so, but we're supposedly coming up on one, so let me know how it goes!

    @Mrs D: awesome!

  15. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @Mrs D: Whoohoo! Is she actually that regular? P wil sleep for 1 to 4 hours and eat as soon as she wakes.

  16. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    @Grace: K has been pretty regular about eating every 3 hours throughout the day today...we'll see if that carries over to tonight. Fingers crossed.

    For other moms....how do you know what let down feels like? I feel like my milk is coming in...

  17. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @Mrs D: Yes! Fingers crossed! My milk came in yesterday and I haven't noticed let-down yet. The breasts have become huge and firm and P has milk running down her face after every feed so I know there's milk there, but no let-down.

  18. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @Mrs D: @Grace: Congrats to both of you!!! Aren't little girls so fun?!

    @redsmarties: I'm not sure about a wonder week. M eats allll the time when she's awake. But she's been sleeping pretty well at night. I find the swing works best once she's already drowsy or asleep. If I put her in there awake she's usually only content for 10-15 minutes, but if I put her in it as soon as she falls asleep she sleeps for hours.

    @Mrs D: My letdown feels like a tingling sensation, but I don't think I felt it right away. I knew my milk had come in because I could hear her gulping and swallowing (it sounded different than before) and there was often milk running down her chin.

  19. Mrs. Oatmeal

    blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts

    @Mrs D: I didnt notice my letdown until about a week after my milk came in. I never notice it in the side she's feeding from - just the other side. Also, I feel it sporadically through the day. It's tingly and uncomfortable, but only for about 10 seconds.

  20. Sapphiresun

    nectarine / 2220 posts

    @Mrs D: My let down kind of felt almost like I was missing her mouth, and milk was trickling down my boob on the outside. I seriously used to double check if that was the case before I realized it was an internal dripping.

  21. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @Mrs D: Oh, also when I have a letdown I leak from the boob that M isn't nursing on (I think this is common), so you can check for some drops of milk coming out of the other boob.

  22. delight

    pomelo / 5326 posts

    @Mrs D: glad everything went well!
    @Grace: my babe had no regular schedule at the beginning. We were also every 1-4 hours. We are just starting at 3.5 weeks to have more of a routine.

    I don't even really know what let down is. Can someone explain? I never feel anything different in my boobs. I mean i know when they are super full because they are harder. When LO attaches and it's full my milk can drip down my front and down her chin. Is that letdown? I have to always wear those disposable pads otherwise I leak through my bra.

  23. StbHisMrs

    pomegranate / 3329 posts

    Can you have letdown and not know? I've only noticed milk running down her chin a handful of times, and once she unlatched and got squirted. I never feel anything except painful twinges on the opposite side.

  24. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @delight: a letdown is basically just the release of the milk. I think it's actually a reflex. So normally the baby will have to suck a few times before milk actually starts flowing (the sucking is what triggers the letdown). I also sometimes have a letdown just from hearing M cry.

    @StbHisMrs: yes. I know some people can't feel theirs, but the twinges on the opposite side is exactly what I feel when I have mine.

  25. delight

    pomelo / 5326 posts

    @lawbee11: hmmmm I don't think I ever really "feel" my let down. Ill pay more attention though to see. I'm going to start pumping this week so maybe ill notice!

    Do you ladies put your LOs to bed ever when they aren't asleep? I always put Liv down after she's fallen asleep while nursing. I'm having a tough time getting her to sleep tonight. I tried putting her down still awake but that didn't go well. Are there any tricks? I know eventually she needs to be able to go down while she's still awake. Maybe she's still too young?

  26. StbHisMrs

    pomegranate / 3329 posts

    @delight: I try putting her down drowsy but it seldom works. I just nursed, bounced, held her from 5-9:40. Tonight has been pure hell! She normally has 2 very long naps a day, morning and evening with short naps inbetween. She took 1 today. Yikes!!

  27. Alivoo01

    wonderful olive / 19353 posts

    @delight: I've put DS down when he's drowsy but it's a hit or miss that he puts himself to sleep. The hubby likes to hold him till he's asleep before putting him down so that's DS's preferred method of getting put down.

    My letdown is a tingling sensation also and only occurs in the boob that DS isn't nursing on. And if I look down as I feel my letdown, milk will start to drip out unless I compress my nipple with my nursing bra. I don't feel a letdown on the nursing side or when I'm pumping.

  28. skipper2010

    kiwi / 597 posts

    @Grace: Yeah I think a weeks supply should be enough. If you haven't gone in a week you should call your doctor anyway I think.

  29. greenebee

    cherry / 189 posts

    Hey ladies,

    Wow! I don't know how you all can keep up! I'm so far behind! Looks like everyone is doing well, glad to hear our last two August babes have arrived, congrats!!!

    So, I'm probably immensely over tired but I have to confess, I'm feeling pretty emotional. I mentioned before that baby J had some trouble feeding at first (we had to supplement with formula before my supply came in and used SNS to teach him how to feed), but once he got the hang of it, he had a great latch and we thought everything was great. He is an excellent sleeper and we had to wake him up at night for feedings. Because of this, he lost some weight and our pediatrician recommended feeding every 2 hours exclusively breast feeding. This got him to gain 3 oz in two days which we were really excited for. But at his check up today, he had lost 0.5 oz in the two days since we last went in. Our doctor is now recommending that we just pump and bottle feed, and if we have to --- supplement with formula.

    Sorry this is so long, but I guess im looking to see if anyone else is doing this. I'm worried because he's lost weight and kind of disappointed that breast feeding hasn't been working. Did anyone else experience this? I love that hellobee is such a perfect place to talk about things like this.

    Thanks in advance for the support!

  30. MrsB2012

    nectarine / 2466 posts

    @delight: B is rarely asleep when we put her down. She is usually pretty awake after her 9pm(isn) feed. Husband usually has a snuggle with her then we swaddle her and lay her in her cradle awake. I have no idea when she falls asleep. She sleeps from 10 ( when I go to bed ) until 5am. She feeds until about 530, then I put her back in the cradle awake. She will coo and whatnot for about an hour then she sleeps until 830. There's no trick for us, she's just always been able to fall asleep on her own. I know we are extremely lucky. She does like noise though, usually I put the air conditioner on for her.

    @greenebee: sorry you're having some trouble with breastfeeding. If it's something you'd like to continue with then don't give up! WHen B was born she didn't gain any weight for about 5 days after discharge. The public health nurses came to my house, I fed her, they weighed her and then told me that she wasn't taking in enough at each feeding. They found that she was about 20-30mls short each feeding so I had to pump that amount and then cup feed her. It took her just over 2 weeks to get up to her birth weight while doing that. Since then she's become a little porker and gains more than average for every appointment. At her last appointment she was way above the weight they wanted her to be at ( they wanted her at 7 pounds 11 ounces I think and she was at 8 pounds 5 ounces. ) that was without the cup feeding.
    It was really hard emotionally because I felt like I was failing as a mother because I couldn't get her to drink enough. They had me feeding her every 3 hours and if she wouldn't eat I had to put a cold cloth on her to wake her up ( which obviously she hated. ) It was really hard, but we got through it.
    If you really want to keep trying with the breast feeding, then keep offering your breast, and if you have to supplement after, then do so. I would imagine they are keeping a close watch on his weight so hopefully he starts gaining and holding soon. Good luck, I know it's hard, keep with it

  31. JamieLee

    clementine / 930 posts

    @greenebee: hey! We have had lots of feeding issues. Breastfeeding hasn't worked for us from the start because DS just won't latch and/or stay latched. Since day one, I've been pumping and supplementing with formula. He lost a bit of weight in the hospital and had low blood sugar so we had to supplement with formula against my wishes. I have a lot of disappointment about the breastfeeding not working, but I have to do what's best for my baby. I'll be honest, pumping is a PITA and I think about quitting every day. I'm currently working on building supply because I don't pump enough to exclusively feed him breastmilk. I have read that pumping isn't the most efficient way to empty the breast so it isn't really the best for building/maintaining supply. I'm taking Mothers Milk Plus and drinking Mothers Milk tea and I made lactation cookies today. I think the best thing to do is pump as often as you can. I have trouble getting in the 8-10 pumps they recommend because my son is very fussy so I have to wait till he's sleeping or DH is home. Let me know if you have any other questions as I have been doing this for a month now.

  32. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @greenebee: I'm sorry it's not going well. I guess just remember that even if you have to supplement now, it's not like you can't breastfeed. He's still getting those good antibodies!

    I have a newborn sleep question. P waking to nurse roughly every 1.5 hours. Did your babies do this too? If there's longer stretches now, how long did the frequent nursings last?

  33. greenebee

    cherry / 189 posts

    @Mrsbee2012: @Jamielee: @Grace: thank you so much! I feel much better -- I think the hormones got the best of me. You're right. I have to do what's best for the baby and he is still getting the nutrients/antibodies he needs. I'm going to stick with it for sure. Lactation cookies sound good! Any favorite recipes?

    @Grace: There were a couple of nights where Jude was hungry again after an hour or an hour and a half went by post-feeding. Perhaps it's a growth spurt?

  34. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    @greenebee: sorry you are struggling - I think the ladies gave you some great advice and I don't have too much more to offer! Just want to offer hugs!

    I'm struggling with emotions too...it's a weird feeling but it just seems like I am not doing enough. I mean I feed her, change her and an totally responsible for her but I still feel like I am not doing enough when I just watch her sleep or snuggle her when she's up...I know I'm not doing anything wrong I just feel a little lost on what else I can do for her in these 3 mos when I can be 100% devoted!

  35. Sapphiresun

    nectarine / 2220 posts

    @Mrs D: I constantly feel like it's not enough too. I mean, she still eats on a 3 hours cycle, and I'm giving letting her eat as long as she wants a try, so she does 45 minutes on one side, and usually another 10 to sometimes THIRTY on the other. That's an hour and 15 minutes out of some cycles, and then she falls asleep for up to an hour and a half. I totally don't understand when I'm supposed to do all the tummy time, reading books, playing with educational toys and stuff that all the books say are supposed to happen. I mean, I also need to do luxurious things like sleep, eat, shower and go to the bathroom. Not to mention we still have a fair amount of visitors, and everybody still just wants to hold her and sit there... not do all these things, so then I feel like I'm responsible for squeezing them into even LESS time.

  36. MrsB2012

    nectarine / 2466 posts

    @Mrs D: @Sapphiresun: I agree. I feel like the little time when I'm not feeding her or changing her, or taking care of myself I either don't want to do all those 'other' things or I'm too tired to even think about it. Then I remind myself she's 6 weeks old and I feel the most important things to focus on are love, trust, and security. We show them that every time we feed them, change them, dress them, comfort them.. so really we're all doing ok

  37. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @Mrs D: @Sapphiresun: @MrsB2012: Wow - you ladies are hard core! My whole goal with Paige is to feed her and manage to get enough sleep that I feel human.

    The baby blues have found me It's the freakiest thing ever. Shows up when the sun goes down and lasts until midnight. I've never been a very emotional person, so to just start crying for no reason is very disconcerting,

  38. Sapphiresun

    nectarine / 2220 posts

    @Grace: oh no no no no... My whole point is that I'm NOT doing those things. My husband works 12 hour afternoon shifts and I'm by myself with her from 11-1am 4days a week. It still feels like survival mode here most of the time as well. Because all her basic needs take up most of my time, and when I'm not attending to those I need to attempt to keep myself fed, watered and relatively clean things like multiple stories a day (I sometimes read her our posts while she's eating - once in a while I remember to grab a real book before we sit down but I'm sur not showing her the pictures) and getting maybe 5 minutes of tummy time in a day?? She kinda hates it and will only tolerate 1-2 minutes and then need a break or falls asleep which is not the point.
    Annnnnnd she's been sleeping in my bed which I feel like is our total dirty little secret. She goes to bed at 8pm and I sometimes feed her side lying and then just leave her there while I so whatever. When I come back at 11 I feed her again and tend to just fall asleep with her, and then often when dh comes home he sleeps in the guest bed. She has half a queen size bed with no pilloww or blankets to herself, and I put a small pillow beside me so I can't roll on her, but yeah... Afraid I'm creating a monster but sometimes at the "end" of the day I just want her to go to sleep without a major fight and feeding her and not moving her after is so easy...

    As for the baby blues they're crazy aren't they?? Im not an emotional person either. Before I got pregnant I had to think about when I'd last cried and figured it was a close family members funeral 12 years ago. So yeah - baby blues blew me away. I cried for 2 hours straight about 3 days after she was born. I think what originally set me off was thinking about how it was going to hurt to poop and then it was just like.... The entire world crashed down and I couldn't stop crying. I felt like I had a hair trigger for the waterworks for about a week but now (5.5 weeks pp) it seems to have passed.

  39. Mrs. Oatmeal

    blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts

    @Grace: This was me exactly. From about day 3 until close to 2 weeks pp, EVERY NIGHT without fail, at around 6 o'clock, I would just start crying. I dreaded every night, my anxiety was wicked, and I felt so inadequate. While I'm still having some weepy moments now (mostly out of exhaustion), I feel SO much better. Hoping you feel better soon!
    @Sapphiresun: K bedshares too. I feel like its a total dirty secret - so many people are SO against it. But its what works for us right now, and she sleeps so much better when she's beside/near us. And, I've never met a teenager who still sleeps in her parents' bed...so they'll grow out of it eventually.

  40. Mrs D

    grapefruit / 4545 posts

    @Sapphiresun: Well K just started eating like every 1.5 hours...I am trying to let her just hang out on the boob more so she can maybe go a little longer or sleep a little better. I agree though...I try to take a step back and realize that I am doing so much for her already that I need to not worry about other things yet!

    @Grace: Total baby blues here. I have choked up a few times but kept from crying. I think today is going to be bad because we had our first bad night last night. I think I barely slept...maybe two hours. She just constantly wanted to eat. Maybe a growth spurt? I dont know...

    @MrsB2012: Thanks for the nice words...thats what I try to tell myself!

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