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@blackbird: +1
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I have actually had a few pieces of unpasteurized cheese (accidentally.) and i had rillette, which is kind of like pate, which is supposed to be a no-no. I've had barely-cooked meat (elk, steak - NO HAMBURGER) but only in respected establishments or at home, had soft serve, a few sips of beer or wine here or there and the occasional unheated deli meat sandwich.
I keep forgetting to take my prenatal vitamin though.
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I've had some beer/wine before knowing I was pregnant/afterwards. I've also had some deli meat (didn't realize that it was banned until a couple of months in) and some afternoons where a cold Coke was all that got me through the day! I have been super consistent with my vitamins, water intake, and protein in my diet, so I weigh that against my "sins" and feel a little better
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@LazyLightning: The soft serve thing is due to the risk of listeria, which I guess someone found once in a machine. Same as lunch meats.
Outbreaks are rare, but they do happen. One just took place, and someone did lose a baby. Here's a link
And that's tragic, totally. But the list of things women are advised to avoid is just crazy long. Soon I imagine that driving and drinking hot coffee will be added to it. There's just no way to mitigate all risk while pregnant, and I think it's crazy making to try. My policy was to avoid obvious risk - I didn't do anything with a legitimate risk of harm, like rafting. I think I was more at risk of falling on my ass down my basement stairs than getting sick from lunch meat.
Also ladies, I'm begging you, take your prenatals. Neural tube issues are bad bad news.
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@LazyLightning: oh cool! im due june too! We must be going through the same kinda hell right now
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i've eaten just about everything on the "do not eat" list that i've seen, but what's funny is that my doctor didn't give me anything. i am very aware of the different meds that i can/can't take though and take my prenatal every day. i just figure i have to use common sense with food anyway, so i only eat from places i trust.
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I totally eat deli meat pretty much every day. I am living right on the edge!
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@tororojo: It's just any food surface where bacteria can grow. Prechopped veggies and meats are common, I guess. Any dairy product too. But yeah... I dunno. It's a risk but is it that BIG of a risk? Kind of like drinking caffeine. None is likely best but a little doesn't seem to hurt. (Some docs even say the same about small amounts of alcohol.)
@tlcbaby: haha you're a REBEL!
@birdofafeather: I think bigger restaurants/franchises (like Subway or Mcdonalds) are probably safe bets because they really suffer if customers get sick. The issue is that normal exposure we'd have eating there wouldn't bother us, whereas apparently we have weak immune systems while preg so it could bother us. But still, low odds.
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@LazyLightning: it's funny because i would completely avoid fast food places like that! i have a friend that worked at subway and she said avoid it!
at 30w pregnant, i haven't gotten sick from eating deli meats, raw oysters, raw fish (in moderation!), soft cheeses (it's all pretty much pasteurized in the US anyway), soft serve, smoked salmon... yeah, hit up that do not eat list pretty good.
i know the reasons they say to avoid and i feel totally confident in my choices. everyone has to do what is right for them!
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In regards to Subway....I managed one at one point and there isn't anything wrong with their food. If someone thinks you should avoid a Subway it may be just that particular one. I wouldn't rule them all out. They aren't all run poorly.
Just use your best judgement.
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@Bookworm: The Sierra Mist/OJ combo sounds amazing! What is the ratio of each when you make it?
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@rahlyrah: I make it 50/50. My parents always called it a mimosa fizz, and it was always our go-to drink when we were sick. Tastes even better with cherry 7up!
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@Bookworm: I am definitely going to try this drink! Sounds great!
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@Pumpkinspice: while I'm inclined to agree, it isn't anything with the restaurant in particular. It's more the fact that sliced meat has surface area where bacteria can grow. Normally we wouldn't have any problem eating it but I guess with low immune system, it could be an issue. Still not common though. I would def. trust a chain sandwich restaurant like Subway or Jimmy Johns over a sketchier place where meat might sit out longer, but sitting out isn't necessarily the problem either--listeria can grow in refrigerated meat too.
Saw this the other day (from http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/listeria.html):
"Restaurants such as Subway recommends that pregnant women eat the following non-luncheon meat items such as meatball, steak and cheese, roasted chicken, and tuna (limit 2 servings a week)."
Edited to add: All that said, I think I still am gonna eat some. I want a damn sandwich.
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Wanted to add that with Soft Serve, it *is* whether they clean the machines. Unlike the meat thing, which is more random. So as long as you eat that from a clean establishment, I think you're fine. A lot of y'all mentioned mcdonalds and I can't speak for all mcdonalds but our local ones are some of the cleanest restaurants in town according to the health inspector. They have good standards there--i will keep eating their ice cream!
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@birdofafeather:
I'm in complete agreement with you. My doctor never gave me a list of things to avoid either. He just mentioned fish/mercury (which I don't eat as a vegetarian anyway).
I just eat from places I trust and consider "clean" and like you, they are NOT chain restaurants.
I'm 35 weeks, i haven't gotten sick from eating soft cheese, soft serve, veggies, eggs.
I feel happy about my decisions.
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@birdofafeather: As far as cleanliness I go by my local health reports. Very surprisingly out of over 100 local restaurants. McDonalds was right on top. Not that I eat there all the time or anything though, I go to plenty of other places due to food being healthier almost anywhere else than McD's, and prefer non-chain to support local. But if I was gonna have, say, SoftServe, I'd likely get it at mcdonalds rather than a food truck or whatever, just 'cause i know it's supposed to be clean.
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