pear / 1895 posts
@oliviaoblivia: E has only truly cried 3 times, and two of them were during medical procedures (heel pricks). I seriously can't handle it and it's one of the reasons I'm not vaccinating him, at least for now. I've worked in childcare as an infant nanny and in an infant room at a daycare for the last 7 years, so I've heard a lot of babies cry. But I CAN NOT handle hearing my baby cry. Can. Not.
This is probably going to be a bad thing, eventually.
pear / 1895 posts
So... did anyone/everyone get hemorrhoids? Do you still have it/them? I swear, mine are as big now as they were the day after I delivered (and now I wish I was more anonymous on here...). I've been reading online and past HB posts and everything I've read makes me very scared that they're never ever going to go away.
In other news, Eli went to the doctor today, and he weighs 11 lbs 13 oz, at just shy of 5 weeks old. What a fatty!
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@oliviaoblivia: awe I am so sorry
@allison: I still have one I think it has been there so long I don't even feel it anymore though. Blah.
I can't handle hearing J cry either. Breaks my heart !
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@birdofafeather: thanks for the supportive words, i appreciate it!
since E's feeding schedule is a bit f'd up from the fussiness/colic (i'm no long sure what it is, but does it matter?), the amount of bottled milk we give him varies widely, and take what i say with a grain of salt. before things started to really devolve about a week ago, he was taking up to 4.5 oz bottles in the afternoons. now it's anywhere from 1 to 4 ounces, and it might take over an hour for him to finish. we do a mix of breast and bottle feeding. breast is so much faster, but it's definitely nice to be able to know how much they're getting with the bottle!
speaking of nursing, how long are your nursing sessions? E's nursing sessions are pretty short, usually 7-9 minutes. he'll pop off and i can't get him to latch on even after giving him a 20 minute break. i'm hoping that it's because milk is just positively gushing from my boob (i have a healthy supply although i wouldn't say an oversupply). i've considered trying to stretch out the time between his feedings with the thought that it might make him eat more at each session, but i'm not sure i feel comfortable doing that at this stage or if that even works.
@allison: what a little chunker--i love it!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@Mrs Green Grass: so great to hear that you guys are getting to "normal"! i totally hear what you're saying about still being "on-call" even when the husband is on shift. my husband takes over in the evenings when he comes home from work until midnight or 1am, but i hear almost everything and it's hard to ignore, not help out, take over (i need to work on that), etc.!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@oliviaoblivia: oh i'm so sorry! i remember E's cries from the heel prick, so i can only imagine what it's going to be like when he gets his shots. at least there's some comfort knowing that our babies don't remember a thing!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@coacheswife123: aw, it is a heartbreaking notion that they will go through their own hardships and hurt in the future, and we won't be able to protect them. hope you got some good cuddles in with J today!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@dagret: how did the appointment go? i had mine last week. it was kinda nice to see my OB and "debrief" a little about the labor/delivery.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@edelweiss: my nursing sessions are about the same ! He is going through a growth spurt I think and he is still only nursing about 12 min per session!!
Thanks for making me feel better ! I started bcp on Tuesday and am wondering if it has me feeling a little cray cray haha. I'm not normally so emotional for no reason !!
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@oliviaoblivia: j got his shots today at an impromptu doctors visit. He did ok but now I can tell his legs are sore how is liv today ??
Turns out he has reflux so we are starting Zantac today !
pineapple / 12793 posts
@coacheswife123: ooh surprise shots! The pain is so short, but its heartbreaking for even a second. glad J took it well. Liv is doing great today, just a little sleepier than usual. Last night she was ok but cried a bit upon waking which is really not like her. I swear I've only heard her cry twice (birth & shots yesterday). We gave her baby Tylenol and she slept well overnight.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@oliviaoblivia: we gave him some Tylenol !! I know, he was crying earlier and I could tell it wasnt his normal cry - hurts my heart !
pineapple / 12793 posts
@coacheswife123: I swear she would wake up and cry "oh my god, why do I hurt?!" Thank goodness it's over.
pear / 1599 posts
@Mrs Green Grass: yay so glad to hear you guys are doing good. Who needs sleep anyway? lol
Do any of you ladies have the baby k'tan? I ordered one from no better deal but they sent the wrong size so I have to re-order. I am hoping Abi likes it by the time it gets here.
We had a big regression with Abi's sleeping and eating:( I have been googling to try and figure out what is going on and I think we just hit a "wonder week" Her adjusted age puts her right on track for the 5 week wonder week, fussiness, clingy, bad bad bad sleep. and not eating well. We are slowly making it back to normal I think. Kind of excited cause they say this is when they will learn new things so maybe I will get to see thsoe smiles everyone else has already been getting.
DH took her out to dinner with his family tonight while I was at work. I am having a hard time dealing with this. MIL and i do not get along at all so I am not comfortable with her being around Abi when I am not there. I feel as if I should be ok with this because it is DH's mom but I just cant stop dwelling on it! She doesnt like me and does not respect me as a person or as a parent. I just wish she wasnt in our lives, I'm sorry I know thats mean but I have my reasons (tried to ruin wedding and baby shower, called me and my sisters and mom names, calls dh names, she is an alcoholic and life is only about her....). This is only the 2nd time she has seen Abi since we had her, totally by her own choice. And even though I dont want her around LO, I would have thought she would want to see her more often being the 1st grandchild and hounding us for so long about having a baby. I think she is one of the very few people I have ever known that I can say I hate. So sad. End rant.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@pinkb: your MIL situation sounds a lot like mine. Don't feel bad. I will not leave J alone with my MIL either because I don't trust her to respect our parenting wishes and don't trust her to make responsible decisions. I am fine with him being with her if DH and I are around but something about her holding him and beig in his face still irks me!!! I wish our relationship was better but she is constantly doing something or acting out in a way that turns me off to her again and again. It is sad, but I believe our lives would be easier without her in it
grapefruit / 4235 posts
@edelweiss: the appointment went well! It was with my regular ob/gyn, who I didn't see at all when I was pregnant (I go to a huge practice), and I joked that it was my first appointment with him in 3 years that I didn't cry. Not that I'm some kind of weirdo who cries at the dr, I had/have? Unexplained infertility.
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@pinkb: i have a k'tan! overall i like it, here are some pros and cons.
pros: easy to put on (once as you practice a little, but it's not nearly as complicated as a moby wrap); lightweight and comfortable material; great to wear around the home and short trips (like a walk around the block); relatively inexpensive compared to other carriers
cons: not for long trips (too much strain on the shoulders/back without distribution to waist like ergo/beco/boba/etc.); since it's sized, my husband can't use our XS; not sure how long i'll be able to carry E in it before he gets too heavy
we also have an ergo for longer trips, and i like having both for different purposes. for example, E was super fussy yesterday and i popped him in the k'tan and bounced him for a bit and he fell asleep in the fetal position. it was easier than putting on the ergo, which can be a bit of a production (especial with the infant insert). but when i take my mile-long walks, i use the ergo for the extra support.
i'm sorry about the MIL situation. totally understandable how you feel, why would you want your baby to spend time with someone who doesn't respect you? i would be saying similar things about my FIL if he were still alive--i would NOT have wanted him to spend any time with E without me being there (so if you felt badly about saying something about your MIL, just feel better that i said something about my deceased FIL--ha!).
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@coacheswife123: how is the zantac working? hope it's making your LO feel better!
pineapple / 12793 posts
@pinkb: It sounds like we have the same MIL. I vent about her all the time. She has been having money trouble and recently sold her house. DH suggested she come live with us and in exchange for room and board, she can watch LO while I'm at work. Over my dead body. Fortunately DH realized what he was saying and immediately said, she was the worst mother, she can't raise our baby. I'm sorry yours is sucky as well.
I have the k'tan and like it for wearing her around the house. It's quick and easy to put on. I don't like wearing her out in it though because it is less secure than the moby. I think that might be due to fit. I'm an 8/10 so I ordered the medium, but sometimes I think I should have ordered the small. She's big enough to do some of the other holds, so I'm going to try those this weekend.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@edelweiss: we have only given it to him twice and he hates how it tastes! i hope it starts to help! he doesnt spit up a ton so i'm thinking we are dealing more with silent reflux than true reflux!
pomelo / 5628 posts
I have the k'tan too...I've only worn it around the house, but I would for a trip to the store or something. It's not super comfy, but I like it. I'll use the ergo eventually.
Did anyone do circumcisions? D had bus right before we left the NICU and the ped said he might need a "revision." That sounds horrible! How long did it take the swelling to go down?
honeydew / 7504 posts
@Mrs Green Grass: D had a circumcision. I'm honestly not sure about the swelling - we were told to keep Vaseline-coated gauze on it for the first week, so I honestly didn't look very closely at it until then, and by then I think the swelling was down? But I'm honestly not totally sure... those first couple weeks are kind of a big blur.
@coacheswife123: How did you determine he has reflux? D like gags/ coughs/chokes after eating. Not every time, but almost always in the evening. Sometimes he'll fall asleep nursing, then wake himself up choking. I've started keeping him upright for a bit after he finished eating, and that seems to be helping a bit. But I brought it up in the support group I've been going to, and the lactation consultant basically said it's not reflux because it's not every feeding. But what else could it be? We have a ped appt on the 19th, but I'm wondering if I should take him in earlier.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@littlebug: sounds a lot like what J was doing. Check out the silent reflux thread I started Would link but I'm on my phone !!!
pomelo / 5628 posts
@littlebug: I think waiting until the 19th is fine if he is still eating. Keeping him upright is the best thing.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@Mrs Green Grass: @littlebug: I agree with keeping him upright !
We circumcised and that thing didn't look normal until about 5 weeks. I was terrified of it !
honeydew / 7504 posts
@coacheswife123: Yes, I could have written your post! Thanks for leading me to it!
@Mrs Green Grass: Thanks. I know you have experience with the reflux, so I appreciate your input! I think he'll be ok till the 19th!
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@littlebug: I definitely think he will be ok. My ped basically said we just have to ride it out. The Zantac won't keep him from spitting up it will just make it not acidic so it won't hurt him. poor babies !
grapefruit / 4923 posts
@littlebug: apparently most babies have some sort of reflux because their esophagus and digestive systems aren't all that well developed. we were dealing with screaming/arching back after feedings a couple of weeks ago (it was traumatic) and now try to feed him in a more upright position, and try to keep him that way for as much of him awake time as possible. i also bought a pillow wedge for under the crib sheet so he can sleep on an incline. i think the reflux has gotten better because we aren't having to be so careful about things anymore and he's still okay on the reflux front--hope the same goes for you!
@Mrs Green Grass: a "revision"? that doesn't sound fun! i hope D doesn't need it. E's swelling went down considerably after the first few days, and i would say by the end of week 1 it looked pretty good (not totally normal as it does now, but i felt fairly confident that it was mostly healed and okay). that may be on the quick side, though. is D experiencing some pain/swelling down there? hope everything is okay!
grapefruit / 4923 posts
has anyone nursed in public yet? how did it go? did it take a few tries for you and your baby to feel comfortable?
i tried today and it was a 95% fail. i think he nursed for a total of 2 minutes out of the 10 i spent struggling trying to get him to latch on and stay. i don't know if it was the different atmosphere and/or that i was wearing a cover (a+a muslin blanket draped over us), but he just wouldn't stay still! he also was too squiggly to take the bottle that i had brought as back-up. that plus all the maneuvering to get the cover on, undo the bra clip, lift up the shirt, move the nursing pad...i'm sure it gets easier, but i didn't realize it was something i would need to practice!
honeydew / 7504 posts
@edelweiss: I have tried a few times, and we still haven't mastered it. I think he gets distracted by all the noise around him, and it gets freakin hot under the cover! The few times we've tried, he definitely hasn't nursed efficiently. And I can't seem to get him positioned right without the boppy. It's way harder than I thought it would be!
grapefruit / 4235 posts
@edelweiss: I managed it 2 weeks ago at our mall, i nursed him in the bathroom anteroom at Macy's - they have a weird "sitting area" that branches off to their restrooms on one side and their employee break room on the other. The chairs have arms and it was quiet in there.
I went shopping with my mom yesterday though and it was more of a debacle. He wouldn't nurse well - I even went in the fitting room so I could pull off my top, no dice.
I'm at my parents and we had a ton of visitors today. L was a mess from 4 p-7 p; Nothing calmed him down. I think he was waaaay overstimulated. I was supposed to go out with my brother and SIL but I'm too worn out. Plus with turning the clock forward tonight, the timing of his day will probably be all screwy again.
GOLD / grapefruit / 4007 posts
@edelweiss: we had a really bad screaming episode after feeding today that I think was reflux related and it made me want to die !!!! He seemed like he was in so much pain. I hope it gets better soon ! I have nursed him once in the back seat of my moms car (while parked!). It wasnt easy. Like @littlebug: I am wayyyy more dependent on the boppy than I realized !
@dagret: poor L I hope he rests good for you tonight.
grapefruit / 4235 posts
@coacheswife123: thanks...I had a glass of wine after he fell asleep- I figure I earned it!
ETA: thank GOD we are at my parents - I would have been a mess after a crying session like that if I was at home by myself!
pineapple / 12053 posts
@allison: my baby cries bloody murder when she's in the car seat and needs to be changed. I've grown somewhat used to it as long as I know what's wrong. Still nothing like people staring at you when your kid is screaming like you're tearing off her arms.
@edelweiss: thanks for the feedback! She's taken anywhere from 1-3 oz but I don't think she drinks as much from the bottle as she does from me? She gets hungry sooner after a bottle. Could be because its collected milk instead of pumped too. I am using up that frozen stash so I can start fresh with the pumped stuff.
Her sessions can be short as well. She must have gone through a spurt last week though because she had several sessions that were 30 minutes and one that was 40! I was shocked but she kept going. Thank goodness that's done for now!
@pinkb: I have a moby and a boba 3G. Row loves them both and I love them so I can get things done. She usually sleeps in them!
@edelweiss: yeah, I've nursed a lot of places including an impromptu session without a cover at all after we had to cobble together a diaper too! Thank God for cloth diapers and paper towels! Anyway, I've definitely had to get better at it because the first couple times I leaked all over myself. Oops. I'm getting better about not using a pillow after reading the article @allison: posted about milk flow. Row likes to be more upright at the end of a feed so no pillow needed. Sometimes I'm more worried about my stomach showing than flashing my nip for a minute but the cover I have (bebe au lait) really covers up everything!
Do you all have a set bedtime? We've fallen into a groove with wake times (with the time change, she woke up right at 8, so effectively 7) but I have a hard time instituting a bed time when our own schedule is different every day and so we've just been going by the last feeding between 6:30 and 8:30. That's when we feed, diaper change, pjs, and a little prayer or story or something before shushing, rocking to sleep. We don't do daily baths yet and those tend to rile her up so we do them in the morning or later afternoon. What's your bedtime routine, schedule or do you just fly by the seat of your pants too?
pineapple / 12793 posts
@birdofafeather: we've just started with a bedtime routine. For a while she'd freak out in the tub so doing a bath at night was a disaster. Last week she started tolerating them really well so that's back in the routine.
Starting around 7:30 I nurse her, then a bath, then lotion/diaper/pjs, then snuggle and storytelling/book reading, then a quick nurse and then sleep. We did really well for a week and tonight she is sitting in my lap WIDE awake. It's 10:53pm. My little night owl.
Her sleep overall is really good. Bed 8ish, feed 11, dream feed at 4 or 5, sleep until 8 and awake for the day. But then we get a random night like tonight when she thinks its playtime.
pineapple / 12053 posts
@oliviaoblivia: do you nurse at 7:30 no matter when her last feed was? like if she woke up hungry at 6:30? that's where i have trouble.
pineapple / 12793 posts
@birdofafeather: I pretty much nurse her on demand but if we eat dinner at 6:30/7:00 and she gets hungry then I have her wait until I've scarfed down my food. Sometimes the 7:30 feed is a meal and sometimes it's just a snack.
And yeah she's still awake. Happy, but awake. Our routine started out really well tonight.....ugh.
Ooh she's yawning, gotta go!
pear / 1510 posts
Another sleep note -- Baby A slept for six and half hours straight while we were visiting the ILs this weekend. It was AMAZING. I was so confused in the middle of the night and kept checking the clock and her.
@oliviaoblivia: I'm impressed that you've started the routine. Hope it goes a bit better tomorrow! We're going to start next week.
honeydew / 7504 posts
@allison: I forgot to answer your question last time. Yes, still I have hemorrhoids, and I feel like they're never going to get better. I have airways has regularity issues (it runs in the family), so pooping had never been exactly comfortable for me. Now it's pretty much fist out awful. I'm nit sure what to do.
As for sleep routines, Hubs gives D a bottle around 6/6:30. he usuallystarts showing signs of being sleepy/hungry again around 8, so we say goodnight to Daddy, then we go upstairs, change diaper, get a little massage with lotion and a lullaby, then nurse until he's finished. I used to wait put him down until he fell asleep nursing, but now that I've added rocking him for 10-20 minutes to keep him upright after eating, he's often in that awake but drowsy stage when he finishes eating, but usually out by the time the rocking is done. So I still worry that I'm setting a bad sleep habit, but I'm not sure what else to do at this point.
I'm starting to keep track of his daytime sleep to see if I can establish a napping pattern. Right now his daytime sleep is completely erratic, and I feel like I need to start getting him on kind of a schedule for daycare. Ugh, daycare...I can't even think about going back to work! Too sad!
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