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@mrsjyw: wow that's a rough night! hope everything gets back on track today. does he act fussier during the day if he doesn't nap as much? my LO would be so cranky by the afternoon if she only got an hr nap during the day.

@highwire: @mrsjyw: I hope you both have better nights tonight!

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We go back and forth so much - it's seriously maddening to think we're making progress and then out of nowhere have her backslide.

She went nearly 10 hours (HOLY AWESOME) one night a few weeks ago and now she is back to waking only 2-3 hours after being put down to sleep and then every 3 hours after that along with early wake ups around 5:30-6. It is wearing on me not because I am tired, but because I feel defeated and like none of our efforts have made a difference at all.
I am trying to just stay positive and make it through the next month or so, continuing as normal and crossing my fingers that things will start to get better again... and then stay that way!

We are moving in a month to our new place (we bought a house y'all!) and I started a thread asking for opinions about sleep training now vs. after we move. The consensus was that there is so much going on right now that after would probably be better/easier on all of us so that's what we're planning to do. In the short term though I am just... sad. I was finally able to not dread her bedtime and not have to worry that she would wake up 10 minutes after I had fallen asleep but we're right back to where we were months ago. I get sad when I think about it all mostly because I know she needs better sleep. But partly I just feel like I am doing it all wrong
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@lindseykaye: @MamaMoose: Maybe there is a growth spurt or something going on around this time in development? Seems like a lot of us are having sleep problems. C was up again last night 2x which is so uncharacteristic. We hadn't had one single wakeup whatsoever since the few days we had of the 4 month sleep regression 2 months ago.

@MamaMoose: Oh man, awake for two hours? That is tough. Ellie has had a harder time going down and a lot more wakeups right now but I am very thankful that she still eats and goes back down in the middle of the night within about 20 minutes. Tonight we may be in that boat though - who knows?!

@highwire: I think there's a lot going on, including a growth spurt, at least for my girl. She was able to just feed for 5 min. off one side during night wakeups for a while and we are back to seriously eating from both sides during the night. She is also: crazy close to proper crawling (she is a fast little scooter for now), sitting unassisted, pulling up (including on her crib rails), cutting more teeth, and starting even more solids. Too many things at once!

@scg00387: Thanks We are so excited about it but I am dreading packing and moving with a mobile baby! And you know what? I think your advice actually is very helpful. I have been far more relaxed than I expected since she has been born but sleep still makes me nutty and I will probably feel a lot more at peace if I just let it go a little. Sure I can encourage good habits and keep with our routine to try and help her but there really is nothing I can do to guarantee a good night.

Already feeling a little better about it all, and not worrying about bedtime tonight so much. Thanks ladies.

@lindseykaye: We've moved a lot, so I feel your pain on packing and moving!! But yeah.. my LO has never been a great sleeper, ever; I'm glad we did no cry sleep solution and I know that he can put himself to sleep but beyond that nothing I do (nursing more, less, different schedules, no schedule) seems to have a direct correlation or causation on his sleep being good or bad. So, as much as it goes against my nature, I've had to give up stressing and just go with the flow otherwise I'd lose my mind

@kml636: For the first time in weeks it's 6:45 and he is awake, and has been rolling around cooing and banging on his crib mattress.....so I'm not holding my breath for tonight LOL what a tease!

@ChelseaRose: it took my daughter about a week to figure this out on her own. we just left her in there one night to CIO to night wean, and we found her in the morning on her tummy. she has been able to roll back and forth with no problems since.

@ChelseaRose: it took my LO about a couple days to get used to it. hopefully its just a couple more days for u! and i know what you mean about them being all over the place in the crib! i have no idea how my LO gets from one side to the other without crawling. haha i'm always amazed where i find her

@kodybear: @mrsjyw: I have no idea how they maneuver so well without crawling. Lol. My husband and I are always entertained watching him do it. It doesn't usually wake him up to go from back to side to tummy, but sometimes when he stirs and is in his tummy he gets upset.

@mrsjyw: that has happened a couple times with my little guy, but it was always sporadic. I felt so bad that something must have scared him and it is definitely different than a normal middle of the night fussing that happen occasionally.

N had been sleeping so well since we sleep trained at 5.5 months but the last week or so hes been crying about an hour after he falls asleep for a few minutes and then goes back to sleep. Then sporadic crying throughout the night, sometimes 2am, sometimes 4am. We don't go in because it doesn't sound like physical discomfort, nor does he sound scared but its baffling. My ped warned me this would happen around this time and said to make sure he knows how to sooth himself back to sleep (like that's so easy!) His naps have also been crappier, it takes him 20 minutes of rolling around to fall asleep and he wakes up earlier too. Hope this phase ends soon! Does anyone else still nurse to sleep? His naps and bedtime coincide with nursing so I'm terrified to drop a feeding or when he decides to drop to 2 naps.

UGH as many of us went through with rolling, LO is now sitting up in his crib and wailing because he has either momentarily forgotten how to get back down (not a problem out of the crib) or because his sleep sack makes it harder. This morning before his nap he fell asleep and pitched forward, hitting his head and waking up... and then after 4 attempts of me going in and laying him down finally passed out instead of sitting back up.

Just complaining. Hoping it ends soon!!

@bamblm: we've been on two for a while, around 9 and 1 for an hour to an hour and a half. He sleeps 6:30-6:30 with one wake at night. He's taken maybe two three hour naps in his entire life you're lucky!

@bamblm: we've been at two naps since about seven months. We have occasional three nap days, but the third nap is usually quite a battle and then very short.

@mrsjyw: yuck that sucks! but hopefully his night sleep isn't affected?? my Lo has been crankier this past week bc of the tooth she just got. i can't imagine 4 at once!!

We're getting tooth #3 (first top) right now - started poking through on Thursday and, of course, that was our worst night of sleep in recent memory. Potentially worse than when she was a newborn only because we have such different expectations now.
Fireworks certainly didn't help...

Good vibes to fellow teethers! Hope they come in quickly and disturb these babies as little as possible!

@kml636: Can you stretch out the wake time between nap one and nap two so she can stay awake longer before bed time?

@kml636: we were having this problem too on days LO only took 2 naps- she would be tired and in bed by 7 but waking up at 5/5:30 because she only needs 10-11 hrs overnight sleep. so for right now we are still doing a small cat nap in the evening so she can go to bed between 8 and 8:30 and sleep in until 6:30 at least. i am hoping when she gets a little older, she will be able to handle a longer awake time before bed so she can still go to bed around 8 and wake at a more reasonable time umm and so jealous your LO sleeps 11 hours straight! lucky!