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Nov '12 Mamas: Post-partum Chat

  1. LemonLong

    pear / 1698 posts

    Another one doing Moms on Call. So far so good. Yesterday she fed from 8:55-9:39, then had story time with Dad and was put down in the crib at 10:06 and didn't get up until 5:19 am. DH leaves for work at 5:45 am so she's kind of on the same schedule as he is!

  2. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    We nursed in public for the first time today! It went ok. I used a cover for the first time and I think it was also our first time not using a pillow. We were at a coffee shop with the moms I met in the breastfeeding group, so I knew they would be patient and understanding if there were issues. We were walking with baby in the stroller so he went right back to sleep. Going out messed up our routine, so I'm a little worried about this evening. He's still sleeping in the car seat and I've been afraid to wake him up or transfer him.

    Do you ladies leave them in the car seat if they are asleep or do you try to move them and risk waking them up?

  3. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    @ChelseaRose: Leave him! I do when we get home and Em is sleeping. It's usually not too long before she wakes up. And yay for nursing in public!

  4. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @LemonLong: omg that is awesome! Lily has been on the routine for two nights, goes down around 10 up at 2 and 6 so far. Do you give her the last feeding in a bottle? Not sure if that will work for us because she spit hers up.

  5. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @ChelseaRose: I've been leaving her. Congrats on nursing in public!

  6. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    So for those doing Moms on Call (it seems there are several ppl doing this)...do you need the whole thing - book, seminar, swaddle, white noise machine? Or are you using just certain things?

    Any more you can tell me about it is appreciated. The website doesn't give a lot of info and I've read mixed reviews.

    Also, did you talk to the ped before starting?

  7. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @SLR: I'm curious about Moms On Call too!

  8. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @kml636: I had a huge meltdown today about how totally unstimulated I feel at home. Thinking about trying to work in some of my hobbies again during the day (cooking, yoga, maybe read a book or something)

  9. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @SLR: I watched the seminar and it has good practical advice, not sure I will follow all of it (they say dont pick baby up if they wake early until after certain crying periods-maybe when she is older) but I'm glad I bought it. I use white noise and the miracle blanket.

  10. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @highwire: I don't wake her to eat at night anymore but it is probably one of the reasons why my supply is crappy right now.

    @SLR: I've never heard of moms on call, going to google it now.

    @ChelseaRose: We always take her straight out of the car seat byt DH is a physio and obsessed with her lying flat and or beinghunched over in any way. I defo see the argument for letting them sleep though. Oooh and good job on nursing in public!

  11. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @kodybear: I had to smile when you said nursing for fun I've been in such a foul mood about bfeeding today. Awesome about remembering how to latch though and OMG about the spilled milk, I totally feel your pain!

  12. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @highwire: you could do a yoga DVD while she naps?

  13. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @highwire: When I'm not on hellobee while nursing then I read ebooks on my iPhone. I use Overdrive Media Console to get library ebooks for free. The library system here has so many current and popular books as well as classics b

  14. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @highwire: yes, I definitely am over the nurse baby... Watch tv... Go for a walk... Repeat. Wish i could nap. I am planning lots of stuff to do. Guess I'm not SAHM material either!

  15. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @travelgirl1: probably!

    @ChelseaRose: oh that sounds awesome!!

  16. MamaMoose

    GOLD / squash / 13464 posts

    @travelgirl1: we always take LO out of the car seat right away too. I dont love how it hunches her over and I figure it's good for her to get used to sleeping through being transferred from one spot to another.

  17. lindseykaye

    pear / 1992 posts

    @chelsearose: I only leave her in if I'm pressed for time on something myself. Like today when I really needed to eat and she had fallen asleep in our walk. It was leave her to be for 10 minutes longer or potentially not eat for another hour (at best) which would have been no good!

  18. LemonLong

    pear / 1698 posts

    @kml636: She has been feeding from the breast for her last feeding, I've been thinking about trying a bottle though, just because it's so much faster than nursing.

    @ChelseaRose: Yay for nursing in public! I'm worried about my first time, the cover ups seem like such a pain! I take my LO out of the car seat right away, but she doesn't have issues going back to sleep if she's still tired and will only fuss for a few minutes.

    @SLR: I bought the MOC swaddle blanket and we bought the book. Basically, during the day I feed every 3 hours, and I don't let her nap longer than 2 hours at a time.

    At night I do a supper feed around 6 pm. Then she can nap for no longer than an hour and a half. At 8:45 we start the bedtime routine with a bath, diaper change, then she nurses (it's important this nursing session is at least 3 hours after the supper feed so the baby eats enough). I play soft kids music while she nurses After nursing she gets her pajamas on and DH reads her a bedtime story, swaddles her, turns on the sleep sheep and the tranquil turtle. She's awake when we put her down and will fuss (not cry) for a few minutes and then fall asleep on her own. If the baby cries (not fusses) during the night, you wait 5 minutes, then go in and offer a pacifier, rub them, etc, wait 5 more minutes, if baby is still crying then do diaper change or reswaddle, wait 5 more minutes. If still crying, then feed.

    I didn't talk to my ped when starting, but I made sure to bring my LO to the breastfeeding support group a couple times a week to make sure she was still gaining weight. My LO fell into the third percentile for weight, so I was worried about dropping feedings, but she made up for the missed feedings during the day by eating more. According to the scale she's still gaining 1-2 oz per day even though we have dropped all night feedings.

  19. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    @LemonLong: Wow, thanks so much for the info! I can imagine the first few days could be rough. When you said that you feed every three hours during the day, is how often she wants to feed, or is that part of the schedule? Mine usually does every two hours, so would that mean I would have to space these out to three? We have a ped appt next week. Assuming her weight is still good (which I can't imagine why it wouldn't be), I may have to order the program.

  20. lindseykaye

    pear / 1992 posts

    @LemonLong: I was really curious about this program too - thanks for sharing a glimpse at it! I am really considering ordering it too - I think ever since Mrs. Stroller's post about her azing sleeper they will be very popular

  21. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @SLR: my LO wants to eat more like every 2.5 hours during the day so if she's hungry I feed her, I just modify the schedule a little bit.

  22. LemonLong

    pear / 1698 posts

    @SLR: I use it as more of a guide, so I'll try to space it out a bit, but I don't refuse to feed her. I just wait a few minutes to make sure she really is hungry. I use the baby connect app to track all my feedings and sleep, here's the average intervals between feedings for her:

    1 week: 2 hours 25
    2 weeks: 2 hours 41
    3 weeks: 2 hour 37
    4 weeks: 2 hour 17 (growth spurt!)
    5 weeks: 2 hours 43
    6 weeks: 2 hour 52

  23. kodybear

    pear / 1616 posts

    @LemonLong: wow thats a long stretch of sleep! hope to get there soon. and thanks for the info awhile back abt LO's weight vs night time wakings. i think LO is almost to the point where she can do longer stretches of sleep.

    @ChelseaRose: i move my LO out of the carseat. mostly bc she doesn't really wake up when shes moved so i feel like she'd be more comfy in a crib.

    @SLR: i don't think you need the book and seminar altho i did get both. the info is basically the same. if ur a visual person the seminar might be better cause they have demos abt swaddling, soothing, etc. but the book should be enough detail as well. i use a miracle blanket and a white noise machine but i didn't buy any of it from them. i didn't talk to my ped about it. i'm kind of doing it loosely right now tho. the day time i've pretty much done what they said, feed every 3 hours, make sure she doesn't nap more than 2.5 hrs at this age. the night time has been harder to follow bc of the growth spurt and making sure shes eating enough but i'll b working on it the next couple weeks

  24. Mrs. Tricycle

    blogger / pear / 1964 posts

    @highwire: the carrier has really helped me in that sense - I can walk outside, cook (almost dropped him in the oven though - oops) and feel sort of normal. I miss work, but I really miss alone time with DH. LO's fussiest times are evening, so when he gets home from work, it's almost impossible to connect when there's always a screaming baby around. Embarrassingly, I'm still sleeping on the couch - our be is really high and it just doesnt work as well with the rock and play as the couch. So I miss sleeping with DH, too. My goal is the bed this weekend!

  25. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @Mrs. Tricycle: ugh I feel you. I just tried to put lo in the swing and get in bed with DH and she started screaming. So we are back on the couch. She's been gumming a bottle of breastmilk for the last hour but won't actually drink it. Remove it and she screams...

  26. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    Does anyone else have those avent nipple shells? I got some yesterday, they're pretty good in that they make my nipples a shape she could probably latch on to.... Might try her without the nipple shield later.

    I got the medication to treat our thrush too, but have been putting it off because it will turn her mouth purple so don't want to do it on s day we're likely to take her out.

    Hope you all got plenty of sleep!

  27. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @LemonLong: what time do you actually put her down for the night? I think we do it really late, earliest 12 I think.

  28. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    Baby girl slept from 11 - 4! Maybe would have slept longer but I woke up with engirgement and was fretting about my supply so I picked her up as soon as she started making noise.

  29. immabeetoo

    honeydew / 7687 posts

    @travelgirl1: I got them but mostly just to air out without being freezing cold

    Ugh had to go to the hospital last nite for a stitches repair had been more painful since Friday but I put it off thinking I was being a wimp till yesterday when I went in. Infected and pulled internal stitches they out me under general anesthesia to fix as if I didn't have enough going on with our move !

    I have frequently been thinking to myself that I don't know how moms of multiples survive we barely get by with two adults to one baby!!

  30. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @scg00387: oh man. Hope you are doing better!

  31. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @scg00387: That does not sound like fun. I hope you're feeling better! I also don't know how single moms survive a newborn.

  32. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @travelgirl1: we put LO down really late too, at like 11-12pm. i think it shifts the whole schedule later, and i don't know how to start shifting it back...she won't go down unless she's had enough to eat during the day but i can't get her to eat more during the daytime! she flat out refuses unless she's ready to eat.

    last night was good in terms of sleep though. she slept from midnight to almost 7am and then she slept until 10am. now if i could just move it back a few hours so i can go to bed at a reasonable time.

    she is stretching out her feeding times too and i'm worried about my supply. why is there always something to worry about?? if its not one thing, its something else!

  33. LemonLong

    pear / 1698 posts

    @travelgirl1: we try to have her in her crib by 10 pm. We start our bedtime routine at 8:45. The last nursing session usually takes up at least 40 minutes of that time.

  34. Mrs. Tricycle

    blogger / pear / 1964 posts

    @scg00387: ouch!! Hope it's a quick recovery this time around!!

    @travelgirl1: our baby is super fussy from 6-10, so by the time we get him calmed down and fed, he doesn't actually fall asleep until 11:300 - which does sound late.

  35. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    I'm leaving baby with my mom for the first time today! He's only stayed with my husband once (and was asleep the whole time). I have a dentist appointment and can't put it off any longer as it is already 7-8 months since my last one. He's six weeks old today! Where has the time gone?!

  36. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    Just had my weekly appointment with the lactation consultant. She fed for 40 minutes and barely got any milk (she was weighed before and after). Was told to try exclusively pumping for a few days, eat more, and take some supplements to help increase my milk supply. Super depressed and calling my OB to talk about PPD.

    :'(:'(:'(:'(

  37. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @highwire: I'm sorry. I know how frustrating this has been for you and C. I hope the new plan helps.

  38. Mrs. Tricycle

    blogger / pear / 1964 posts

    @highwire: hang in there, chica! Everything probably seems worse because of your BF issues. I think you've officially given it the college try, and if you want, switch to the stinking formula. It's not worth the impact on your mental health.

  39. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @Mrs. Tricycle: @ChelseaRose: my spirit is just broken.

  40. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    @highwire: Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Hope the LC's suggestions help out. But if not, it's more important that you do whatever is going to make you and baby happy. I've known a few people who needed/chose to switch to formula because their milk didn't come in or due to other BF'ing issues - and in the end were happier overall. Your sanity and wellbeing comes first and whatever is best for you will be best for baby. Hang in there!!

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