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  1. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @mrsjyw: may be because you are EBF? We get 11-12 hrs most nights, but she still gets about 50% formula in her diet, which takes longer to digest...

    Not saying to add formula for no reason, but I think that is why C can sleep so long

  2. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @mrsjyw: When he wakes after the long stretch, try just giving him a pacifier instead of feeding him (If he takes a pacifier). That worked for us and now she's sleeping every night from 8 - 10 then 10 - 7 (THANKFULLY).

  3. kodybear

    pear / 1616 posts

    @mrsjyw: i did the moms on call method which is basically waiting 5-10 min before going in (basically u want to make sure they're awake versus just making noise in their sleep which my LO does alot), then soothing them w/o picking them up (we gave LO a paci, but u could also try patting or rubbing their tummy if your LO doesn't take one). we did that up to 3 times before feeding unless its around 7am then i just fed her. now she sleeps from 845-730 without waking up at all. it will probably take a couple days for this to work but you should start to see LO waking up later and later each day until finally they don't wake up at all in the middle of the night.

  4. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrsjyw: agree with @kodybear. i wait to make sure she is actually awake and crying. she makes a crying noise and fusses at 4am every single night for like 5-10 mins and then will just fall back asleep. she sleeps from 7:30pm to around 7am. but if the cry escalates and is just a constant crying, then i'll get up and feed her. my LO generally cries only when there is something really bothering her (hungry, poopy, overtired, pain), so i feel like if she is really crying then she must be hungry and isn't just looking to be soothed (i.e. letting her cry it out per my pediatrician's advice won't work for us. yes this could just be me being a softie, but i'm ok with that).

  5. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    @kml636: @kodybear: @JessLC: thanks mamas!

    So last night mightve been a fluke but he slept from 715-145...gave him a paci cuz he was only stirring...caved at 245 and nursed him becuz my boobs werr engorged. He then slept from 3-530/6 and I pacied him til 745 when again my boobs were full.

    Im ready to implement all of u suggestions but had a couple questions.. what did u do until ur supply adjusted to no night feedings? And did your LOs stay in ur rooms or their own room? Hrs sort of loud so I'm thinking wr might be more successful just mocing him to his room this wk.

  6. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrsjyw: my supply kind of never adjusted. I'm still engorged when I wake up in the mornings and after LO eats, I just pump. When she started having an earlier bedtime I started pumping right before I went to bed. It is a nice way to build up an freezer stash but its a total pain in the butt to pump. Anyway, we moved LO into her room at around 12 weeks. At that point she was sleeping 10 hours. The transition messed with her sleep for a week or so and then she went thru a growth spurt so she was waking once a night for a couple weeks. Just in the last week has she been sleeping 11-12 hours. Too bad mama can't resume her normal sleeping habits. Anyway good luck!

  7. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    @JessLC: thanks! A will be 12 wks on wed so I may start tonight. He's not fussy about sleeping in his crib (my mom or i have slept.in his room.w him) or his pnp and sleeps well unswaddled too so we're lucky on that front. We'll see how tonight goes!

  8. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @mrsjyw: I've been adding to my freezer stash while LO sleeps. But I still wake up engorged so ill pump after her morning feed most of the time also

  9. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @mrsjyw: I didn't do anything, just was engorged for a few nights and still wake up engorged. I do think it's reducing my supply a bit but I'm not about to get up in the middle of the night to pump.

    We all sleep better when she's in her own room. Sometimes I still bring her in our room if she's having a rough night but otherwise its crib, white noise, out.

  10. immabeetoo

    honeydew / 7687 posts

    I wish I could get LO to take a pacifier ... He would up until last week on and off buy now acts like they're poisoned

  11. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @JessLC: I'm a softie too, I'm nowhere NEAR ready to let her cio yet : )

    @mrsjyw: A is still in our room and will be until she's at least six months as per Canadian recommendations. I imagine we'll actually keep her in longer because I just love looking at her sleeping, lol. I wear milk collectors overnight to help stop engorgement and catch any letdowns and then save it to add to my freezer stash. I usually get an extra ounce this way. I also pump one side before bed so she still has a side to nurse from if she wakes up while I'm trying to get to sleep.

  12. kodybear

    pear / 1616 posts

    @mrsjyw: i exclusively pump so i always pump right b4 i go to sleep and then when i wake up. the first couple nights were pretty uncomfortable but if she wasn't getting up i wasn't either! haha now its still uncomfortable but not as much. and also LO sleeps in her own room. if i slept in the same room as her i'd seriously be up all night checking her every time she made a peep. now at least with the monitor it tunes out the smaller noises and i can only hear her when shes crying.

  13. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    So a's been down sonce 740 in hia room. *tear...

    Hope he does ok tonight. Ty all for ur feedback, don't know what id do wo this group of mamas.

    I am def not going to pump at night. Ill fight thru the engorgement for now... I do usually have an oversupply in the am and have slowly built our stash to 100 oz+ plus ill only have to pump 2-3 days a week at work. So I think.were all set for now

    Trying to enjoy this last wk... good luck to those mamas heading.back to work!

  14. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrsjyw: good luck tonight! let us know how it goes. nice job on the stash!

    our nursing sessions are turning into these marathon sessions ever since we got L comfortable with the bottle. the nursing session before she goes to sleep at night lasts almost an hour these days. its usually because she falls asleep and comfort nurses then will start drinking again once my milk lets down again. during the day it can be like 40 minutes. i thought they were supposed to get more efficient as they get older! although i can't say that i don't enjoy some part of it. i really love nursing now. i think because i don't get to do it as much since i've started back at work and my mom gives her the bottle a lot, i appreciate that time more. i really think i'm going to miss it once i go back full time! i swear i never thought i'd say that i would miss breastfeeding!

    anyone else start back at work yet? how's it going?

  15. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @JessLC: our nursing sessions are long when it is just the two of us at home. Now that we can nurse lying down I let her eat as long as she likes if we have nowhere to be or anything.

    @mrsjyw: nice stash!!! I'll have 15oz after I finish todays pumping and I am so proud of my little collection

  16. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    Well, today is my last day of maternity leave and I can't believe how upset I already am about it. There is a little part of me that it looking forward to going back to work and having a little more independence, but overall I'm thinking this really sucks. We had a terrible night sleep, so she's still sleeping now and I just can't wait for her to wake up to start cuddling her.

    How are all of your LO's sleeping with swaddles now that they are bigger/stronger? We were getting some good sleep from mid to late-January, with one stretch that was 6-8 hours and just one night feeding. But the past couple weeks have not been as good. Now she's breaking out of her swaddle and waking up after 4-5 hours and then every 2-3 after that. It's like she insists on getting her arms out, but once they are, they go crazy and she can't go back to sleep because they are flailing all over the place. We've tried both arms in, both arms out, and one arm in and can't get back to the good sleep. I try to re-swaddle and give a paci before feeding, but sometimes end up feeding her 2x now. Any suggestions?

  17. lindseykaye

    pear / 1992 posts

    @SLR: You have my complete sympathy (and so do you @Travelgirl1 and @mrsJYW) as we've gone backwards regarding sleep recently too.
    Up until just two weeks ago she was sleeping 6 - 8 hours with her first stretch and now we're down to maximum 4 hours (sometimes), then waking every 1-3 after that. Starting back to work and her going to daycare is a big factor, she is also 3 months old now so I'm thinking part of it has to do with a growth spurt. It's just so hard when I know she is so, so tired and is just crying and crying. Eventually she settles though (with a lot of help from us) but it's getting to be very discouraging. I feel like I must be doing something wrong, even though logically I know we're not.

    @JessLC: Being back at work is alright. Better than I expected but still a rough transition. I wish Ellora napped better during the day, but there's nothing I can do about it. The hardest part is really not feeling like we have any time with her in the evenings. She and Dad don't get home until 6 or 6:15, then it's immediately time to feed her, spend a few minutes together getting the bath ready, bathtime, and finally bedtime routine. Couple that with the fact that now she's resisting going to sleep and it makes the evenings hard.
    It's also hard to read about this same problem and see the advice of putting her down for the night earlier when she's already going to bed as early as it seems is possible.

    I know though that there will be much, much harder times ahead and that there will be much easier times too. Being a parent is tough but I think we're ALL doing a great job (even if sometimes I don't feel that way). I'm so glad I have this group to help me feel like I'm normal, and that I'm not alone in what we're going through.

  18. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    @slr: hugs mama good luck tomorrow!

    @lindseykaye: you mamas are my sanity! Hope e sleeps better soon too!

    Austin has been sleeping unswaddled for naps and nighttime sleeping for thr last week. The transition to crib/his own room has gone well too for the most part. He goes down at 730, has a whimper at 1130, cries at 1 for a paci, then wakes up at 3 for nursing and sleeps until 7/8. It's only night two so we'll see what he does for the 3am feeding...

    Why am I up? I had a horrible migraine all day. Thank goodness dh is home this wk. I took a hot shower at midnight anzd I think it's finally gone. Now I'm wide awake painting my toenails and waiting for the 3am wake to see if I can paci him or to nurse before heading to bed.

  19. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @lindseykaye: i know how you feel about having so little time with her. i got home from work yesterday at 5:30ish, nursed and played with her for about half an hour and then it was time to start the bedtime routine at 6:45. it stinks! DH comes home later than i do, so he barely holds her and its time for bed. and i obsessed over L's naps too - but i finally just accepted that I can't do anything about it! she'll keep on taking her short naps, and occasionally a long one, but i can't MAKE her nap. she seems happy when she wakes up, so its fine.

    @mrsjyw: i jinxed myself the other day when i said L had been sleeping 11-12 hours straight for a week. she woke up that night to feed at 4:30am. last night she fussed for 10 mins but fell back asleep again. sounds like you made some progress with A's sleeping?

  20. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @SLR: We had issues with swaddles while using the miracle blanket at night (still ok or naps though), but are dpi g much better with the large size swaddleme blanket. He only gets out if my husband does it too loose.

    Talking about sleep, naps have become a battle in our family. He cries when put down in the crib, which is where he has napped since he was 5 weeks old (he's 15 weeks today). It takes a long time to get him to calm down and go to sleep. I'm not sure if I'm putting him down too soon or too late or if it just a developmental issue (realizing that I'm leaving the room). I'm not sure if I need to change thugs up or be persistent with what we've always done. Today he was awake for almost 4 hours with only one short 20 minute nap in the car. He finally fell asleep, then I had to drive home from where we were, he stayed asleep in the car and once we got home. I was afraid to wake him by transferrin him, so I left him in the car seat. I'm about 5 feets away laying on the couch. He really needs to sleep.

  21. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @lindseykaye: I totally know how you feel. The last few weeks has made me wonder if I'm doing something wrong, or making her unhappy in some way, but then I know during the day she is so happy and it's just sleep/feeding that are the problems, not her happiness. It must be so hard getting home late, I really feel for you with the daycare situation. I'm so thankful I don't have to work right now, I think I would struggle to leave her even more with her being in the harness, I'd worry they weren't holding her right/encouraging her to kick enough.

    @mrsjyw: Ahhh I so need to bite the bullet with this swaddle thing but I daren't! Glad it's going well for you, hope your migraine has gone!

    @ChelseaRose: @JessLC: It's so reassuring to know it's not just us having sleep problems. This week and last have been so taxing on a night, but getting her down at 6pm has helped so much. Getting her down for a nap is really hard now though. Whoever said babies like to sleep???

    Has anyone had any luck with the MAM bottle? We got one today (am DETERMINED to get her to take a bottle so I can get more calories into her) and I love the shape of the nipple. It looks similar to the shape she leaves my nipple in when she nurses (shallow latch I think but it's one in several feeding problems) so I'm thinking she may like it. We're trying tomorrow, wish us luck!

    Other than that I feel as tired as I did when she was a newborn, all this struggling to get her to sleep. Actually now I put her down early she wakes to feed often (great for fattening her up though), so not good for the old beauty sleep. I really feel for all of you going back to work. Hope it all goes well this week!

  22. immabeetoo

    honeydew / 7687 posts

    @travelgirl1: I texted DH today that I think LO would never sleep if I let him during the day I swear.

    After weeks of waking up half an hour after we put him down for the night and eating before passing back out for his long stretch baby has been asleep for two hours. Which is great but I don't want to fall asleep and get woken right back up?! I think he constantly brainstorms new ways to confuse me haha.

  23. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    And for Valentine's Day, my husband wanted to give me a night off from baby duty. Our baby wanted to gift us both and decided to sleep through the night 10+ hours! ♡♡♡

    Hoping it isn't a fluke but he's been in his room for the past three nights and has mastered sucking his thumb...I didn't wake up until jist now at 6am whn dh said to monitor chk, he was worrid cuz he hadn't gotten up at all. No feeding, no paci!!!

  24. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @mrsjyw: congrats! Sooo exciting!!!

  25. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @mrsjyw: yippy!!!!

  26. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @ChelseaRose: is he really cranky when he doesn't sleep or is he ok? naps are so tough. how long is he awake between naps?

    @travelgirl1: we bought the mam bottle but LO likes lansinoh momma better. but i've read a lot of success stories with the mam! good luck!

  27. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @mrsjyw: That's amazing!

  28. ChelseaRose

    persimmon / 1161 posts

    @JessLC: He will eventually goes down, but it takes a lot to get him there. I put him down when he's getting cranky, looks tired, has yawned a few times, etc. I usually put him down between 1.5-2 hours after he wakes up depending on how he acts. Yesterday we were out for a couple hours and he wouldn't sleep other than 20 minutes in a four hour period, but then after that napped for over two hours. His total nap hours are about five a day, but broken up kinda randomly now, and he sleep about 9-10 hours at night.

  29. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @ChelseaRose: based on what little i know about baby sleep, it sounds like you are doing everything right...i figure if they aren't too cranky, they don't have meltdowns and nighttime sleep is good, then its ok. my LO's naps are all over the place too, and she has about 4-5 a day, 40 mins each. i really do think at this age, they're really making some developmental progress, so maybe its just a phase?

  30. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    L has a cold i'm pretty sure she caught it from me. she's sneezy, snotty and a little more fussy today. poor thing.

  31. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    Well, I'm two days into work and am already finding out how much of a pain pumping at work is. And I'm a little disappointed in what I've gotten. Pumped twice yesterday and got 14oz, so not too bad. But today, I did 3x and only got 11-12oz. Hoping I have it in me to keep up with this at least for the next three months. (6 months is my next goal.)

    Daycare is going okay, I guess. I'm already seeing a few things that I don't really like, but maybe I'm just being a overly picky new mom. She hasn't napped worth a darn there, I assume due to the lack of the swaddle. She had only one or two naps over twenty minutes each day. The rest were only ten minutes or so. Needless to say, she has conked out as soon as she got home, yesterday on us and today in the carseat before we could get her out. But despite this, she slept like crap last night...we were up every few hours. Really hoping that we get into a groove in a week or so.

    Good luck to the mamas going back next. Keep us posted on how it goes!

  32. SLR

    clementine / 824 posts

    @JessLC: Aw, poor girl. Hope she gets better soon.

  33. SleepyMonkey

    grapefruit / 4006 posts

    @SLR: thanks. I totally hear you on the pumping being a total pain in the ass. I only do 2x at work but I do once before I leave for work and once before bed. I think I can produce enough milk for her with those four sessions (i think i can get 22 ounces give or take on an avg day) but I do notice that I pump less each day if I'm pumping a lot. My goal is 6 months too but once I start back full time, who knows if I will still have the motivation. Good luck with the daycare stuff...I'm sure it'll just take a little while to adjust for both of you.

  34. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    So I know I'm probably in the minority, but tonight is our first night away from A and we're both surviving it! Hrs been down since 8pm (my mom is staying at our house), and dh and I went to dinner saw the lion king musical (amazing!) Gambled a bit and bout to pass out in this huuuuuge bed.

    Blessed. Looking fwd to my last wknd before work on Mon!

  35. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    So I held out all week and remained positive about returning to work on Monday. I didn't want to waste any time I had left with her being anxious or mopey. I just wanted to be happy and enjoy her.

    That worked until today. We didn't have Vday plans but my parents volunteered to babysit last minute so we went out.

    When we got back she was way oveetired and my parents weren't able to get her down so she was just awake, exhausted, and miserable.

    And Im sure I'm projecting, but I.swear she looked at me like "Where have you been? This sucks." And I was just overcome with guilt and had a total sobbing meltdown about having to leave her in daycare come Monday.

    After a really rough start, this maternity leave has been magical. Getting to spend all my time being a mom to my sweet baby girl has been nothing short of a blessing and an absolute dream realized. Ive wanted to be a mom for so long and I'm so happy to be hers.

    I guess the next phase will have its ups and downs just like this one and we will weather it together.

  36. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    @highwire: huggggggs mama. I will be around all day on mon n we can distract eqch other so time flied by!

    So a slept 12 hrs again last night...such a relief woth being away from him. We've run errands all day today...and going to snuggle him til bath time at 630. Have a great wknd mamas!

  37. kml636

    pomegranate / 3225 posts

    @highwire: I know, it's so hard. I wish there was something, anything we could do to make it easier!

  38. lindseykaye

    pear / 1992 posts

    Not sure what everyone's plans are for birth control post-partum (I know a lot are on the mini pill now) but I had a Paraguard IUD placed last week and everything went great.
    I know I didn't have friends to ask about it in real life so if anyone here was considering one and was curious about the placement process let me know.
    Can't say anything about how my periods are with it because thankfully those haven't come back yet (please stay away as long as you like!) but so far so good!

  39. DillonLion

    GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts

    @lindseykaye: Glad it is going well! I'm on the mini pill which I like so far.

  40. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    I have the mini pill right now, haven't started it. Twice we did the pull out, then last week dh got some condoms. though honestly we just havent made time for it recently. not sure if i want to start hormone pills! :T

    Today's first day back at work is going relatively smoothly! Trying to figure out pumping schedule / not baby connecting A's every move is going to be an adjustment, but I realize how lucky I am to hvae my mom and a flexible work situation.

    Thinking of you today @highwire, hope today flies by!

    Thursday is A's 3 month! CRAZY!!!!! baby boy has been such a blessing and so easy going! And he's been STTN (7-7+) since last Wednesday!!! hoping it sticks around!

    Hope all is well with you Nov mamas and babes!

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