And I feel you, we cosleep so that I don't have to physically get up and walk in & out! That's gonna be tough too. But I guess we'll never know until we try.... Right?!
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@snowjewelz: Do you let her belly-sleep overnight? I'm really tempted to do this although it makes DH and I nervous since it's not recommended, but he tummy-sleeps during the day sooo much better. He'll do 2 hours easy on his tummy and only a half hour on his back.
@MamaG: With you on the earlier bedtime! It's been a struggle lately. Hope you can find a formula that works!
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@BandDmommy: Probably, But with how bad his sleep has been I figured I'd give it a shot. Guess I may prove this theory wrong and at least have a response next time someone tells me to try cereal.
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@josina: if he's spitting it out it probably means he's not ready for solids yet! I don't think solids help with sleep frankly.
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@MamaG: Yeah! What is with them between 7-10?!
What are you feeding now and what are you thinking of changing to?
I think I'm gonna start supplementing any day now!
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@josina: Hugs. Let us hug and cry together lol. And you rock for already letting him crying for at least 15 min? I don't think we've her cry for more than 5... So sleep training will prob be SUPER tough on us. I'm just so afraid that she'd be the ones that cry for like 2 hrs, or cry till she vomits or something
And I feel you, we cosleep so that I don't have to physically get up and walk in & out! That's gonna be tough too. But I guess we'll never know until we try.... Right?!
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@josina: Oh and about the tummy sleep, she actually was a tummy sleeper earlier on, and she was fine! I had let her once I knew she could move her head well. It wasn't like she was STTN anyway lol. But then she started waking up as soon as we put her down on her tummy and lifting her head... So we stopped that. We might give it a try again since hey, all bets are off these days anyway!
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@josina: We still put her down on her back (when we use the PnP), and if she rolls to her tummy so be it. At daycare they do they same. She's been rolling for over a month now. Our thought process is once she can roll, she can get herself into whatever position she wants on her own.
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@josina: And cereal! We didn't do any solids until 6 months. I also thinks its an old wives tale. Our first solids were not cereal either. I'm a little anti-cereal. I only used it for adding to fruits and veggies rather than a food to be given separately. LO did change when we started solids, but it was daytime attitude improvement and we didn't really see a change in nighttime sleep.
Do you know how much he's eating during the day? LO is smaller than your boy, but she's drinking solidly 30 oz of formula per day. I know breast milk consumption can differ from formula. Do you think he's maybe not getting enough breast milk?
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@snowjewelz: I'm not sure on which formula. We are using Enfamil Gentlease currently and I really dislike it. We'll either go back to Similac Sensitive (or regular) or I might give Gerber a try.
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@winniebee: I read a similar article when my MIL and SIL told me to start cereal at 2 months! Ugh.
Is anyone else told to start cereal already? My MIL, SIL, aunts, even daycare provider have all said they started really early, in SIL's case she was giving oatmeal the first day home! Its annoying because DH will listen to this stuff more since he doesn't read/hear anything else.
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@josina: We have our 4 month appointment on Friday, but I'm sure my pediatrician will mention solids. She did when Xander was 4 months. But it was a more of "if you feel like he's ready, it's okay to start solids now" type of thing. Once Xander was 6 months though was when she wanted me to start cereal for the iron. I'm assuming it'll be the same with Logan.
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@MamaG: E gets 3- 5 oz bottles during daycare (8-5) and then nurses twice at home before bed, so should be getting around 25 ounces between 8 am and 9 pm? I tried a bottle once night in addition, and it made no difference.
@Adira: Thats what we were told also at our 4 month appt.; of course DH takes that as lets start right now.
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@MamaG: Gerber is what my ped gave me! And then I think all my other samples are Similac. I hope you find something better! You have such good intuition about it!
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@josina: Yeah got those comments to help stop the diarrhea. Even our ped said if we wanted to we can add a bit to bm. I just smile & nod... We are not planning to start till 6 mo.
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@josina: Yeah I find that K's sleep isn't directly linked to whether or not she went to bed with a full stomach... Unless it is and I'm just too tired to put everything together in my head haha.
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@josina: We heard it the first go round as well. Including our daycare (she was a grandma - to add perspective). I stood my ground firmly on 6 months. Our pediatrician also said 6 months. He might have said we could start earlier, but I didn't "hear" it. I'm a little stubborn
I'm also a little of the "my kid, my decisions" mindset when it comes to outside opinions. And my DH generally defers to me as he knows that I read about babies and child rearing while he's reading sports statistics. Sometimes it feels like a burden to bear the responsibility, but it works well for us.
That's not great advice, other than to say, do what you think is best. You know how much you can handle in sleep and fuss issues.
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K rolled over once from back to front, although only for my husband, but since then I've started swaddling her with one hand out and so far it hasn't disrupted her sleep.
I do normally rock her to sleep though, although last Friday dh just set her in her crib with a pacifier and she somehow went to sleep in her own. But I'm not quite ready to give up rocking yet to see if she'll do it again.
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@MamaG: Thanks. All the outside opinions can get overwhelming at times, especially on top of very little sleep.
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@MamaG: Haha agree with you on the burden and the sports statistics lol! That is why I get annoyed when DH questions me.. I'm like.. Who actually knows what they're talking about? Me! Annnd he calls me an HB addict haha!
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Funny thing...my DH will say can you ask that website....referring to HB.....lol like we are all Pediatricians
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@FaithFertility: hahaha!
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@josina: awww I hope sleep gets better for you guys soon, but I understand why you cuddle or nurse him...he is a cutie pie
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I nurse G to bed every night I just feel like it works for us and many times she is 1/2 asleep when I put her down....but I think when we make the crib transition I'll space nursing and bed a little longer
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@Miss Ariel: Yay K
@MamaG: ohhh h I agree 100% on my kid my decision unless I ask your opinion......I think people think they are experts on kids when they have them...which they are experts......but only for their kids!!!!! -
@FaithFertility: hahaha I get most of my parenting advice from HB
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@FaithFertility: I refer to HB all the time, its so helpful to have other moms/babies going through the same things at the same time! This group is amazing.
We still nurse to sleep at night; but he will fall asleep on his own during the day at daycare. For naps on weekends I will usually rock him to sleep. -
@josina: The rocking isnt so bad besides the fact that she doesn't stay asleep when we put her down.. We have a 50/50 chance lol!
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@BandDmommy: I think your little ones need to face time with our babies and tell them how this sleep-thing works.
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@snowjewelz: I guess this is day 4? To be honest, it's not a HUGE change, because we had been letting him cry for a few minutes here and there as he was not really able to be soothed except for nursing any more. What's mostly changed is that he started waking up every couple of hours all night long when we know that he can STTN without eating as he did that for weeks. We decided (going by Dr. Weissbluth's book because his techniques worked with my daughter) to only feed him after a certain number of hours and not to go in and soothe him if it's not time for him to eat. It sounds horrible in writing (and Weissbluth is definitely hard-core) but he has been waking up with all kinds of fun, silly noises and looking for us to play with him all night. Last night was number 4 and it was great. We put him down at 7:30 - he woke up and cried on and off for 15 minutes at 10 and then STTN until 6 when we got up for the day. I fully expect that things could get worse again, but he obviously does not need to eat every 2 hours all night long.
This is pretty much just my opinion, but to me it seems kinder to let them cry a little at this age than to all of the sudden decide to sleep train at 9 months and then it's a huge crying marathon because they haven't been taught how to self-soothe.
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Baby starfish... aka zipadeezip.. aka best nap of the day!
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@josina: We didn't do baby cereal at all for M. We started with a BLW philosophy at 6 months and I think we'll do the same for J. We did end up doing occasional purees because I wasn't really comfortable with her sitter doing finger foods until she was a little older. The mix worked for us! I don't think that J is old enough to have the motor control needed for solids yet.
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@MrsF: that's great progress! Hopefully he doesn't regress too much! The sleep training group I joined on FB said there can be "burst nights" where they regress so if he does that, hang in there! I'll let you know when we decide to start! I might start out with a more gentle method, then moving onto Ferber if it doesn't work..
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@BandDmommy: So cute! K just stares at her hand with the ziapadee on and wonders where her hand went...
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@BandDmommy: cuuuute
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@snowjewelz: That's helpful to hear! It's a little bit easier this time because M is such an awesome sleeper after learning how to self-soothe as a baby (she was crazy colicky so we didn't have much choice).
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@BandDmommy: I'm so jealous of her naps
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So I was googling random stuff and I think I know why K is a MESS lately... Apparently between like 15-19 weeks they go through a huge mental leap (wonder week leap 4). She fits all the symptoms!
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@snowjewelz: Good to know sooo being WAY off her routine might not effect us this week
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@MrsF: I agree teaching these habits a little now I think will help as they get older! The older they get the smarter they get too and will protest more
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Ok I kusg impulsively bought the app (I hate paying for apps even if it's $1 lol) and she is right smack in the middle of it!
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