2-3 weeks is a growth spurt, so it definitely sounds like that could be what it is... when she's latched, can you hear her swallowing?
It sounds like you have plenty of milk if you're able to nurse and pump that much. I hope that you got some rest and that today is off to a better start 
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@MrsF: he tends to get very full diapers as well and leaks up the side sometimes but I know he is nowhere near the weight limit to be out of newborn! Try keeping the own is always pointed down?
Ok I won't feel guilty about not changing pee diapers. I guess my reasoning for doing it is it wakes him to feed a little more and get a longer sleep stretch but that's probably not the case.
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@BandDmommy: Same gender here but we still struggle to get the names right. Their names are similar and they look identical. Poor K is never going to have her own identity, she will always be her sister's shadow.
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@BandDmommy: might resort to car. We haven't worn her since she is so tiny and Im not sure how her head would hold up.. Even when I swaddled her and hold her to me she cries! I just don't know what's going on!
My mom is here but she is not that familiar with taking care of newborn.. DH came home just to give me a break, tho he has to go back out in the evening.
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@snowjewelz: how small is she? I wore B and he was 5 and I wear D and she is 6 pds.
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@snowjewelz: here is a pic of her... I pulled up a piece of the wrap to support her head
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@snowjewelz: have you tried bicycling her legs? Maybe it's gas?
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@BandDmommy: she is 6 lb 5 oz... I think I will give it a try. I'm just worried she is sick. I left a msg for the doc... She had been crying for almost 8 hrs and my heart is breaking
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@snowjewelz: I'm so sorry. I hope everything is ok!
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@BandDmommy: doc called me back and said she seems hungry and to give formula... I don't really agree but I'm desperate to try anything. But I'm now really upset that I alresdy might not have enough milk?! Even tho I got her back up to her weight!
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@snowjewelz: can you take her for a drive or go for a walk?
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@winniebee: she ate formula and is sleeping now. I a) feel so guilty that I let her cry all day without realizing what she needed and b) am in shock that I don't have enough milk even though I got her back up to her birth weight with BF... This is just turning out to be a really crappy day. Maybe I really need to start pumping to supplement.
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@snowjewelz: what happens when she's at your breast? Does she latch or fuss?
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@BandDmommy: switch between latch and fuss. She was fine last night tho! It literally started this morning.
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@snowjewelz: maybe growth spurt?
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@snowjewelz: don't beat yourself up over it! After she nurses do you see any dribbles of milk come out of her mouth? It might just be a growth spurt and she's helping you call in more milk.
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@BandDmommy: @winniebee: she is 12 days old so we def thought it's possible its s growth spurt. Well earlier in the morning I def had milk in the shield when she unlatched but I guess it wasnt enough. I just pumped a total of 4 oz since she is sleeping and missing a session, so now at least I feel better I have BM to supplement next time instead of formula
Man this is rough! When it's a good day I feel like this isn't so bad but then one or these days hit, I can't even count how many times I burst into tears AND DH went to work today! How do you moms of 2 even do it?!
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@snowjewelz: Ugh, I'm so sorry about your rough day and that the doctor told you to give her formula! Given how much you pumped and the fact you got her back up to her birth weight, it really sounds like your supply is fine. But I obviously don't really know.
2-3 weeks is a growth spurt, so it definitely sounds like that could be what it is... when she's latched, can you hear her swallowing?
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@Adira: today was just messed up; she was so fussy during feedings and fighting me half the time so it's not the norm. I know she was getting enough since she gained back her weight! Today was just a complete crap shoot!
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@snowjewelz: Hopefully tomorrow is better! Though if it is a growth spurt, it will probably last for a few days...
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Ugh, it's so frustrating when you've been up with the baby for an hour and just as you put him back down, he wakes up again acting all starving and you have to start the whole process all over again.
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@Adira: OMG yes
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@Adira: ugh so sorry!
I think I might switch to EP... DD is so fussy at the boob now, I don't know what changed. Obviously it was working since I got her back up to her birth weight but now she is angry every time I nurse her; DH made me top her off the last feeding. I'm going to start pumping more and either topping her off that way or just switching to bottle feeding totally.. This is how frustrated I am at breast feeding!!
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@MamaG: how's EP going? I was reading through the thread you started and there are good tips!
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Our growth spurt might be over!!! Just got a three hour stretch of sleep!!
@snowjewelz: She might be frustrated because your letdown is too slow or something. Try expressing a little prior to her latching to get things started. There are some good tips on Kellymom that might help. It's possible that she's developing a bottle preference over your breasts?
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@snowjewelz: that sounds like a horrible day
It sounds like you have plenty of milk if you're able to nurse and pump that much. I hope that you got some rest and that today is off to a better start 
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@Adira: SO frustrating.
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@Adira: I thought about bottle preference, but she seriously had it like, max 4 times in her almost 2 weeks of life. Plus I use a nipple shield so it's almost like a bottle nipple too? But I def think she's frustrated b/c the milk's not coming out fast enough or something... Even though she was totally fine with it before! Btw, I'm glad you got good stretch of sleep!!
@MrsF: I think I am just going to keep nursing, supplement with breast or formula as needed until I can get some kinda pumping schedule set up and start building a stash!
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@snowjewelz: I'm a quitter. We moved to formula feeding over the weekend. I was not able to pump enough for K. I was struggling with combo feeding and it was mentally affecting me. So here I am, pump packed up and my milk almost dried up. I'm certainly not a great example, but I know what works for us and keeps us happy.
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@snowjewelz: Good point about the nipple shield! It could just be because your letdown is slow or something? Have you checked out this: http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/fussy-while-nursing/ ?
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@MamaG: I am glad you are at peace with your decision! There really is nothing wrong with that. I think it's easier once decision has been made. Limbo is when you're in the middle of no where with anything! DH has seen me so stressed out over this so he just wants to move to formula now... But I said if BF doesn't work out at least let me try pumping first.
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@Adira: Haha I read that like a million times. I just don't understand why she didn't have an issue with my letdown before! Unless it's her growth spurt and she's more desperate than usual... I don't even feel like going to the LC again. Maybe I'll call her tomorrow just to talk it through.
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@snowjewelz: My guess is that it's a growth spurt! Plus your supply is still regulating so maybe when it first came in, your letdown was a bit faster? I don't actually have a clue. Since her weight gain is good and she's presumably having enough wet/dirty diapers, I would just keep trying to nurse her since she's getting enough milk just from you. The fussiness is hopefully just a phase because of the growth spurt and she'll go back to normal in a couple days. Hopefully today is better than yesterday.
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@MamaG: you are a GREAT example of prioritizing what you need to do to take care of yourself and your family! I credit formula feeding with allowing me to finally bond with my two year old daughter. Our babies need happy mamas to thrive. I hope you can give yourself a break and feel some peace
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@Adira: or when at the end of that hour when he is finally settled in his rock n play seemingly sound asleep and then you hear an explosive poo followed by the tell tale smell.
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@MamaG: you aren't a quitter you're just doing what works best for you and your fam. I EP with my first and there's no way I could do that with a toddler at home now.
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@snowjewelz: i EP with my first from 6w- 5 months. Let me know if you have specific questions!
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@winniebee: Haha, yes!! Logan is always pooping after he eats! So annoying!
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How long are night wakings taking? Here they are upwards of an hour! Sometimes less like 30 mins. R def still has his days and nights mixed up. I have to wake him to eat during the day but at night he's just doing 2 hour stretches. Or last night was 2.5, 2, 1, 1, 1.5. Eek.
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@winniebee: j never eats for less than 30 minutes plus a diaper change before and some soothing after - takes a while! He's been doing some longer stretches though, so that makes all the difference. I hope R gets there soon!
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@winniebee: Thank you! Today she is nursing better, for now..! She was fussy last night so night feedings took a while and we supplemented once. Feedings just take a while in general; even if she just spends 10 min each boob 15-20 per boob, add in the diaper change/burping its almost an hour!
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