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@Banana330: Thank you
@matador84: Symptoms didn't hit me hard until 7 weeks on the dot. Every pregnancy is different!
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@matador84: I feel like my symptoms come and go. I either feel disgusting or I feel great, there isn't much in between. I haven't vomited yet, but I'm anticipating that soon.
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I'm finally feeling human again after being sick for a few days and now my son is sick and feels really terrible. My husband stayed home with him today and I'm taking another day off work tomorrow. I barely even remember that I'm pregnant in the midst of all this sickness!
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So I just spoke to my midwife and my hcg levels have climbed from 18,600 to over 20,000 in less than 48 hours so she doesn't know what's going on! I'm being referred for another scan late next week to see what they can see. The midwife doesn't want to give me false hope because baby was 7mm so should have had a detectable heartbeat but not all pregnancies follow the norm...
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@Kemma: Yay, that's great news!
with the next scan!
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Random question - does anyone have any tips for dealing with headaches? I've had a tension headache for three days and have done the usual - tried to get knots out of my shoulder and neck, used magnesium oil, but without being able to take advil it's been fairly miserable (tylenol does nothing). Usually it does not last so long...
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@periwinklebee: caffeine can help. A cup of coffee or coke with the Tylenol. I also got some aromatherapy headache cream stuff that I used last pregnancy
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@Kemma: that's promising!
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@Boopers: glad you're starting to feel better.
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@Banana330: Thank you!
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Running a bit behind on this thread thanks to a crazy work schedule:
@Bibliolove: My OB always dates by LMP. It used to bug me because with my daughter I was temping and knew exactly when I ovulated, but in the end it didn't really matter
@periwinklebee: @Banana330: @Mademoiselle3: I hope you girls feel better when you need to! I'm definitely nauseous, cold, and tired. Plus I just came down with a cold. DH just keeps on saying, "I hope you feel how you want to feel!" because I was complaining that I had few symptoms last week. And every time they disappear I start worrying lol. Can't win. But yes, DH has been doing pretty much everything around the house.
@homestylecreations: welcome and congrats!!
@Banana330: agree on the NT scan, they're so awesome and actually looking like a baby
@periwinklebee: thinking of you today
. I hope your headache clears up; like you tylenol does nothing for me, only advil. For me, I put a cold washcloth on my forehead and just tried to get lots of sleep.@Kemma: Hoping that you get great news next week
Everyone at work pretty much knows now; I find it easier to tell to be able to explain why I don't look like I'm feeling well, disappearing for appointments, and have help with carrying heavy files. Other than that, just trying to ride out the month of February!
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@periwinklebee: thinking of you
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I had my appointment. Heart rate is only 75bpm and it isn't growing. So there really isn't any way that it's viable.
Thanks everyone for your support over the past month. It's made this entire process much less bewildering that it would have otherwise been.
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@periwinklebee: I am so sorry. That was definitely not the news we were all hoping for. Thank care of yourself
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@periwinklebee: I'm so so sorry. Having lots of symptoms must have made this so confusing as well. Wall me if you ever want to talk.
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@periwinklebee: I'm so sorry hon, we were so rooting for you. Again, please feel free to PM if you want to talk. *hugs*
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@periwinklebee: not a September mama but I've been reading along, I'm so sorry. I hope you can take care of yourself.
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@periwinklebee: I'm so sorry.
I'll be thinking of you
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@periwinklebee: I'm so sorry to hear this. Take care of yourself
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@periwinklebee: I'm so sorry. I hope you & your DH are able to take care of yourselves.
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@periwinklebee: I'm so sorry
I was so hoping for better news from today's appointment. Please take care of yourself during this time. Sending you hugs -
@periwinklebee: im so sorry
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@periwinklebee: I'm sorry. Take care of yourself. This is sad news.
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@periwinklebee: so sorry for your news. Take care of your self. It can be a very emotional process.
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@Kemma: good luck with your next scan!
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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your support.
I ended up waiting a couple of hours to see the doctor. At first he was pretty annoyed at me, wanted to know why I'd come back in a week instead of two, said he still had no idea how the pregnancy would go - could be fine or could not and I'd have to come back in another two weeks, said I was lucky he'd managed to work me in then so I didn't have to wait a long time. When he asked me why I wanted to come back in a week, I said it was because the tech had told me last week that it likely wasn't viable, and today she told me that it definitely wasn't viable, so I still had those concerns. At that point he actually looked at the report and said, oh yeah, it hasn't grown at all. After that was much more sympathetic and told me to come back in a week. The doctor still said he has no idea if it's viable or not, but given that the tech said it's not - and that I'm nearly eight weeks but still measuring less than six - I really don't think there's any chance left. I think now it's just a matter of waiting for the heart to stop; I really hope it's not a super drawn out process, as I'd like to move on - the waiting in TTC never seems to end.
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@periwinklebee: Wow that doctor sounds awful. He clearly didn't even look at your first ultrasound info. He must've seen the SCH and wrote it off as having to wait. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Good for you for advocating for yourself! I hope you can find a different doctor.
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@periwinklebee: I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience. I might start looking in to a new doc. Did they mention anything about the next steps etc? Did they think progesterone or anything could help?
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@periwinklebee: I'm sorry to hear your news, I think being in limbo and waiting is the worst
On one hand you can't help but feel a glimmer of hope but on the other, more logical, hand you know that the odds aren't in your favour.
The hospital rang yesterday and I go in for my scan on Monday (NZ time, today is Saturday) at 1030.
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@annem1990: @Banana330: Thank you
the doctor said he doesn't have anything to tell me now, just come back in a week (after I'd voiced my concerns about coming back in two weeks). I'm sure I'd dread the appointments anyways, but having to deal with this doctor doesn't help. The clinic seems pretty skeptical about the usefulness of progesterone. If for some reason we were to need fertility treatments in the future, I definitely wouldn't want to do it with this doctor. We didn't do yet the day 3 bloodwork/SA/HSG because I got the BFP right before we were going to start, and at this point I'm not really sure I want to do that either, though maybe I should to avoid having to get another referral if it's been another six months or a year and I'm starting to worry about it again. I'm just hoping that after the heartbeat stops they'll be able to schedule a D&C promptly, I don't know if it's useful to find another doctor right away so that I'm an existing patient, or if I can just wait until (hopefully) the next bfp. My employer has a clinic where the nurse does annual exams, so I've never had an obgyn before.
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@periwinklebee: ugh.. the waiting is the worst. I guess take it as it comes. There are a number of options (not just d&c) make sure to ask the pros and cons of each. If you want to Pm I've had a d&c and natural mc when the time comes. I seriously believe progesterone helped me keep my pregnancies and it's helps with nourishing fetal development. I think your family doc could refer you to another OB.
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@Kemma: Good luck monday!
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@Kemma: I'm sorry, I'm really glad they were able to get you another scan relatively soon.
Limbo is such a lousy place to be. I've found the same thing, I know the grass is always greener on the other side but I'd rather just get bad news all at once rather than having hope fade one bit at a time. I honestly thought today either it would be over and we'd schedule a D&C or things would have turned for the better. This morning the tech said "your baby isn't growing and has a slow heart rate so it's not viable, I wish I didn't have to tell you this but that's just life, your doctor will tell you what to do next", then walked out. Then my doctor is like "everything could be great, or not, we just don't know yet." It gave me a temporary glimmer of hope before I realized that he didn't seem to have even read the ultrasound report.
I'm really hoping that next Monday will bring you good news, or at least some closure
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@Banana330: Thank you!
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@periwinklebee:
I'm available if you want to talk. Im not great with words but I'm good at listening.
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@periwinklebee: I know this is the least of your worries right now, but your dr seems like a big d. The second the ultrasound tech determined that she didn't think it was viable, he should have been informed and made time to talk with you right away. If I read this correctly, you sat around for two hours in the waiting room before he could be bothered to see you? With that news in your head? That's completely unacceptable. And if he really didn't have time, they should have sent an rn to talk with you instead. I'm sorry
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@Kemma: good luck on Monday!
Yesterday after I got home from work I shivered in bed for hours while drifting in and out of sleep. Anyone else really, really cold at times? I don't know if I had a small fever from my cold or what, but it was fairly miserable. Now I don't feel nauseous or anything, which is a separate source of worry. Ugh!
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Any 2nd+ time moms feeling round ligament pains already?
@StrawberryBee: I was reading on alpha mom you can been really hot or really cold during pregnancy.
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@YouGotMe: Thank you
@StrawberryBee: Yeah, I know, and to top it off, he was clearly annoyed I was back and told me everything was fine and I'd just have to come back in two weeks. Next time I think I'll go with midwives, I'm sure there's other doctors in the practice that are better but honestly I have no desire to go back. It's making me dread my next appt more than I otherwise would. I'm also freezing this morning, and the most helpful thing seems to be sipping hot water or tea.
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I'm going for another scan in 1.5 hours and I don't think I've ever been so nervous in my life - blurgh
I was so hoping for better news from today's appointment. Please take care of yourself during this time. Sending you hugs 
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