We were lucky with sleep with both kids, but I also found the lack of sleep with #2 not nearly as hard as I remembered it being with #1!
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@MrsF: Yeah, it's definitely hard. Some toys I view as communal and I won't let Xander take away from Logan. If he feels REALLY strongly about something, I try to have him offer a trade and that sometimes works. But it's hard!!! Just get along, kids!
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@mrsf: well, we are the flip side of that coin, and I will tell you that it's no walk in the park either! K basically will not leave E alone...ever. And it's not even like she is particularly meaning to bully her or annoy her. Mostly she just wants to pick her up, hug her, hold her hands and walk around with her, and/or control what toys E plays with. But most of those things are, at a minimum, not usually what E wants to be doing...usually are too rough/unsafe...and at worst annoying AND dangerous. So I generally have E fussing at K because she doesn't want to be picked up/hugged/whatever and I just constantly repeat: "do you hear what E is trying to tell you? What do you think that means? How do you think she feels? You need to respect her body and her choices." So we are all broken records, just singing different songs
Also, the flip side of having them farther apart (mine are 31 months) is that K fully understands and has told me: if we didn't have Elliott, I would get more attention. Soooo yeah. She still gets more than E, but sometimes you just can't win.
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@MrsF: Ouch. That would be tough feeling like your older doesn't like the younger. C does like K, they just fight so much! Do you think it's a gender thing? Does she play with boys at school?
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@KayKay: exactly what you said. the number of times T has knocked R down trying to hug, kiss, or pick him up......yeesh. We also have the 30-31m age gap.
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@KayKay: Oi! Yes to the dangerous, annoying stuff. I constantly am telling C to back off, get out of her face, stop being so rough. Some day they will be closer in size and fend for their selves? Right? As it is K doesn't have boundaries and she will pull hair, push faces and body slam the older. It's like WWE with a 4 and 1 year old girl in my house.
We have an exactly 3 year 3 month age gap (39 months).
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@mamag: @winniebee: welp, at least our monsters are normal monsters
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Loving all the insight! My sister is 7 yrs younger than me so my experience growing up with a sibling was very different!
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See this is why I LOVE HB and the Dec Mamas! You all are amazing moms speak the truth and have wondeful insight!
I thank you for your comments and stories!
I know I can't possibly see into the future, but I do know I love my siblings with all my heart and we are so excited to be adding another "Squan" as we say to our home!
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@FaithFertility: Keep in mind I'm old.
You are young and energetic, it will probably be so much easier for you. And Baby #2, might even like bottles -
@FaithFertility: I have an older brother - we're only 16 months apart. We fought like cat and dogs growing up and he used to pretend we weren't related in school (he was popular, I was not), but now we're best friends. I hope my kids will be close, even if it's not during their childhood years and all I deal with every day is fighting, haha.
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@KayKay: I totally know that the grass is always greener - and it must be so exhausting to try to keep the older one from smothering the little one. My best friends' kids are the same ages as mine and this is her issue. And you're absolutely right... you just can't win.
@MamaG: I don't really think it's a gender thing. I'm not sure what it is! It's strange because she is SO far from being a bully. In her preschool class she's the tiny, shy, sweet girl. She's a princess at home though, and J being around just doesn't benefit her at all right now.
And yes! I can't wait until they're closer in size and ability. Although obviously that will come with its own challenges
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@MrsF: @MamaG: @KayKay: @winniebee: sooooo... Basically I shouldn't have another?
kidding. You all are such amazing moms! The sibling challenges are so tough. We are still trying to figure out how we want to attempt to space siblings out. I'm a little wary of waiting too long. I can't imagine h finally starting to sleep through the night, and then adding a newborn in and doing it all again. Shouldn't I just get all the sleep deprivation over with sooner rather than later?
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@theotherstark: Yes! Sooner rather than later!!
We were lucky with sleep with both kids, but I also found the lack of sleep with #2 not nearly as hard as I remembered it being with #1!
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@Adira: funny....lack of sleep with #2 was way worse than with #1...but as ya'll know Ryan was a horrrrrrendous night sleeper whereas Ty was pretty average.
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@winniebee: Oh yeah , I remember you not getting any sleep for months! So nevermind - sleep deprivation sucks regardless of when it happens!
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@theotherstark: I really don't want another winter baby, so I would've either needed to be like 3-4 months pregnant now, or we're gonna wait! I have friends with all different age ranges, and they all have pros/cons. Aside from other external reasons, I think I do need some breathing room for ME, too. I want to exercise a bit, prioritize marriage a bit, etc before diving into it all again. For us, I don't think it'd be healthy for to just go boom boom boom, haha! But from time to time I def feel like just getting it all over with quicker too!
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@Adira: I think it's hard with #1 b/c it's just so shocking, haha. Like I had never not slept that much for that long before!
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@snowjewelz: haha, right?? Looking bad, Logan was pretty nice to me and started sleeping longer stretches a lot earlier than Xander did, which helped with the transition.
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@Adira: it's crazy, for as long as K didn't STTN (till like, 7-8 months?!), it seems like such distant memory, lol! even 6am wake-ups don't really faze me now...
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@Adira: Ryan literally just started sleeping through the night consistently. He only started doing it after he turned 1 and even then, it hasn't been consistent.
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@winniebee: G I feel with sleep STTN 4/6 times out of the week.....lol
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@snowjewelz: Ohhh 6 a.m. wakes are like sleeping in I feel if she STTN and I am asleep by 10
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Ethan has just started STTN consistently too, even though he teased me at 12 months, it took weaning to make it stick.
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@FaithFertility: I always ignore her when she first wakes up.. Today she actually fell back asleep till 7 something! But it actually messes with our routine!
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@snowjewelz: I try to! Some days like today she sleeps until 6:40
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K normally wakes up between 4:30 and 6, and I normally bring her back to bed with us for the last hour or so. The latest she'll normally sleep from then is 8ish, but somehow on Saturday, I guess bc she was recovering from a cold, she slept till 10 and it was glorious!!
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@Miss Ariel: nice!!!!!!! I would bring G in our bed no problems, but she fights it
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@Miss Ariel: wow!!!
@FaithFertility: yup same Ryan has zero interest in co sleeping. He wants to PLAY!
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@winniebee: Yep when she is UP she is UP!
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I got betas done Friday they came back at 174 went back Monday still don't have those results!
Mainly I wanted to check my progesterone since it dropped with G!
It is 13.8 normal range she said!
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@theotherstark: You should absolutely have another! There are ups and downs but there is nothing like it
Don't let us scare you with our complaining And I found the sleep deprivation (and the transition in general) MUCH harder with my first. The second time you have so much more experience!
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@winniebee: Ryan's a jerk.
@Miss Ariel: Being sick sucks, but getting sleep is a big win!!!
@FaithFertility: @winniebee: Neither of our kids were willing to co-sleep except when they were <12 weeks. If we try to bring them into bed with us to get more sleep, it's PARTY TIME!
@FaithFertility: Hopefully everything with your numbers turns out good!
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@Adira: Thanks! I feel good and know this baby is here to stay
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@FaithFertility:
Haha I think I'm the only co-sleeper here! It works so well for us!
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780 as of Monday
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@FaithFertility: wowsa! Congrats!
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@FaithFertility: Yay! Congrats!
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@FaithFertility: woohoo! healthy and happy 9 months!
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@snowjewelz: I would take a night here and there of her in our bed!
She actually loves her crib!
Last night she patted my back and kissed me goodnight before I layed her down
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@FaithFertility: Aww, so sweet! I loved the video of her patting the baby doll. I had to resist commenting that she's gonna be a great big sis on your IG, lol. Did you tell anyone else?
Honestly, I really will miss K in our bed when she leaves one day!
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