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  1. QueensBee

    pear / 1718 posts

    @mrs. Blue: I so enjoyed your update, especially the photos!!!! So handsome indeed. Love all the nicknames too! It's awesome that you were able to get a spot in a top choice daycare although too bad that the first one isn't working out.

    @mrs. High heels: what us it that you don't like about daycare? I feel like daycare is such a hard thing bc you only get to tour these centers for like 30 minutes before trusting your previous babies to them! I hope we like ours in September but you just never know.

    Sleep training night #4 is a bit of a regression. We were out shopping today and he didn't get great naps in. So, he was super tired this evening and we put him in his crib about an hour earlier than the past two (very successful) nights. So far, he has been screaming for ten minutes and it seems louder/more intense than even the first night. I feel so badly but I know he is overtired and just needs sleep. Poor baby. I really hope he's snoozing in the next ten minutes or I might cave...

  2. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Smurfette: did i ever tell you that seeing your avatar and username makes me happy? i it.

  3. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @QueensBee: fingers crossed for you!!

    @Mrs. High Heels: aww, thanks!!! I am so glad you joined the March group!

  4. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @QueensBee: it's not the cleanest facility, every time i ask the teacher(s) questions, they aren't very good at answering or don't seem to be in the know. the lack of communication is so evident - one example is... we can drop her off as early as 7 am, and pick her up as late as 6 pm. if we drop her off anytime before 8 am, i often have to spend at least 10-15 min figuring out where everyone is. the teacher that's supposed to be "her teacher" in the toddler room doesn't get there until 9 am. i seriously have to go hunting for them to find out where i can safely leave my daughter for drop-offs. same with pick-ups. and if i pick her up after 5 pm, all the kids are camped out in front of the tv. i'm not *too* bothered by this because i know they don't let them watch tv all day long, and this is towards the end of the day...

    just recently, i finally saw a note pinned on the classroom door saying, "miss teacher - please let all parents know where they can find their kids if they come between the hours of this time and this time..." - so i know that other parents must've complained about the confusion surrounding drop offs and pick ups too. it worries me that they're so lax about this because what if any stranger just comes in and picks up a random kid! the sign-in process is so relaxed that there is often times not even a person in the front monitoring ppl as they're signing in and out - it's just a book laid out on the desk and anyone can sign in and out as they please.

    also - this nightmare happened to me where one of the teachers was negligent and fed the kids peanut butter for a midday snack - http://www.hellobee.com/2012/11/07/our-peanut-butter-scare/ - i understand it's not a nut-free school, but who in their right mind would intentionally feed kids peanut butter when it's one of the most deadly/dangerous/common child allergens out there?... i had it clearly written in the forms and communicated her allergy the very first day i dropped her off. you do not go out of your way to give a child peanut butter. it is not ok. it's one thing for another kid to bring a pbj to school, but it's a different story if a caregiver is actively giving out pb.

  5. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: @Smurfette: I read the same thing about breastfed babies, but I feel like Xander has always gained slowly. If he was gaining what he was supposed to, wouldn't his percentages stay the same instead of dropping? Oh well, at least @Smurfette and I are in the same boat. And Xander certainly doesn't seem hungry.

    @Mrs. High Heels: Yikes... your description of your daycare doesn't give me warm fuzzies! I'm sorry that you're dealing with this! And that peanut butter issue is so scary!!! It's crazy that teachers would give that out to kids!

  6. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    there are some good things about the school though. i know she is learning so much there, and she comes home happy. she even made a bff there, and waves bye to all the kids and teachers there when she leaves. my manager (she's a mom of 6) told me that the one thing you need to look for when deciding on a preschool is not how they are when you drop them off, but how they react when you pick them up. my daughter's happiness does ease my mind on some of the things that rile me up.

    there is a huge playground that allows them to roam free, i've become pretty friendly with some of the teachers, the teacher in the next room up is awesome (but she doesn't get to move up until she's potty trained), and i found this preschool in the first place because several mom friends of mine (with kids older than my own and have been sending their kids there for years) recommended it to us... so it isn't all bad.

    i would love to send my kids to this montessori school close by that i toured though. it is so clean, so organized, and there seems to be a purpose/intention for everything. it's on the same route as my commute to work so would be a lot more convenient, but it is also at least $400 more per month than our current daycare (but with more holidays and shorter hours), and though we could maybe swing that cost with one kid, we definitely can't swing it with two.

  7. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Adira: i know, i feel like anyone with some common sense would know not to do that! makes me question the legitimacy of their early childhood education licenses, or how up to date they are with the current recommendations. luckily now they have every child's allergies posted on the wall for all to see - you'd think they would've known to do that even without DD having to go through such a terrible ordeal.

  8. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    Okay, I'm nervous about tonight... Usually I wake up Xander to eat at 9:00 p.m. before I go to bed, but he just woke up at 8:40 on his own, STARVING! At least, I'm guessing he's starving by the way he was screaming... Hopefully he'll still sleep well, but I'm nervous this might be a growth spurt and he might wake in the middle of the night to eat... Guess I'll find out soon enough.

    And yes, @Smurfette, I know I have no right to complain.

  9. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: Communication is a big part of our issue, too. It is SO frustrating. Hope yours gets better soon. It makes dropping them off so hard when you don't have complete confidence in them, especially with critical things like the peanut butter issue.

  10. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Adira: haha, you are funny! I hope he sleeps all night for his Mommy!! I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

  11. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Adira: oh i really hope it's a fluke for you and that you get good rest tonight!

    @Mrs. Blue: glad you have an alternative soon, and hoping that it turns out to be a good fit!

  12. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    What size diapers is everyone in? We just had another leak, at least just wet. She had another poop explosion today at DC. Wondering if we should move to size 3 but afraid they are going to be huge on her.

    And yes it is 147 and I am up for the 2nd time. She slept 4 hours before she woke up the first time, have her more Tylenol, but then she woke up an hour and 20 later. But maybe cause she was wet......she is about out again. .

  13. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: your boys are just so adorable! That is so cute that they chew on each others arm. It is going to be so great for them to have each other growing up. Sounds like sleep training wasn't too bad. Glad you are able to change day cares.

    @Smurfette: I hope she is feeling better soon and goes back to longer sleep stretches. I don't know how you make it through the work day. Isaac still wakes up 3-4 times a night, but luckily I don't have to be anywhere in the day so I can nap with him.

    @Adira: Well I hope Xander doesn't wake up again tonight, it is not fun when they decide to switch up their schedules.

    @Mrs. High Heels: Having to choose a daycare is not something I look forward too. How do you know ahead of time all these little things. It is good your lo's are happy when you pick them up.

    @QueensBee: I hope he fell asleep and stayed asleep. Putting to bed an overtired baby is the worst.

    Today was another day of travel for our family. We left with DH from his sisters to his moms. We had 3.5 hours of driving and Isaac was great. We only had to stop once and other than that he slept. We are now here until the end of the weekend. Then it will be back to my moms while DH goes back to work. At least this time will only be 2 weeks.

    I feel so bad for Isaac. It has been so hot. He has spent a lot of time in the last two days hanging out in his diaper.

  14. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @Smurfette: we are still using size 2 with no problems. I hope she goes back to sleep and stays tha way a while.

  15. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    OMG an hour and 20 mins again. What is going on??? She isn't that congested. She isn't coughing.

  16. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @Smurfette: is she wanting to nurse every time or is she just waking up?

  17. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Smurfette: Ugh.... I just want to cry for you. Sleep deprivation is absolute torture! *hug*

    Xander didn't wake in the MOTN, but I did! Woke up at 3:45 and couldn't fall back asleep. I'm tired... though probably not as tired as @Smurfette.

  18. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    Gahhh!!! I thought Hubs had prepared Xander's bottles for today, but all he did was wash the used ones!!! I'm already running late! WTF!!

  19. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: Despite the peanut butter scare, your husband still doesn't want to switch schools?

    @Smurfette: We're still in size 2's, and for the most part, they work, though sometimes he does have blow-outs. Is that the sign to move to a bigger size? I'm not sure Xander's even to the recommended weight to go up to them, so I feel like he'd be swimming in them!

    @ALV91711: Glad to hear your travel day went well! I've decided to visit my grandmother's for the 4th, which is a 3 hour drive, so I'm kind of nervous about how it'll go! Especially since we're just going there and back all in one day. It'll be a lot of time in the car... hope Xander's cool with it.

  20. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @ALV91711: Nursing, or using me as a pacifier is the only way to get her back to sleep. It sucks

    @Adira: Doesn't he drop him off at day care? I would have left him to make them. But maybe that is cause I annoyed with my DH right now. He left R in her crib to CIO last night, I picked her up, so we fought while she is crying and I am crying big tears with her.

    I asked DC about the diapers this morning and she said 3's would swim on her and make more leaks cause they would be too big.

  21. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Smurfette: Yeah, I actually did leave Hubs to do the bottles. He was annoyed with me, but whatever! I asked him to do them last night!

    Oh my gosh, fighting while you have a crying baby (and you're crying) is the worst!!! Sorry you had to deal with that. How much sleep did you all end up getting? You might have to resort to doing what I used to do and go to bed at 7:00 or 8:00 and let your husband deal with R for the evening. That used to be the only way I got any sleep back when Xander was a newborn.

  22. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Adira: I slept from 930-1130, then probably 2.5-3 hours total from the rest of the night. I guess I need to start going to bed at 8 after I get her down. Only it is still light out so I am not sure I will be able to fall asleep. I might try and push back her bedtime tonight, depending on when her last nap is.

    At this point I just want her to feel better so we can sleep train. I never thought that I would be so excited to hear her cry but I can't keep this up. I know she is exhausted too. Plus I really need her to start napping better at DC.

  23. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Smurfette: Ugh, that's definitely not enough sleep! And I think you could try going to bed after you get R down. If she does her longest stretch right at the beginning, it might be your only chance to get a decent amount of sleep. OR you could try what I do and wake her up to feed her before you go to bed. Then maybe her long stretch will be right after that.

  24. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Smurfette: Oh my gosh, I have no idea how you function at work. I got almost six hours of uninterrupted sleep last and I can barely function.

  25. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Adira: I have no idea how I am functioning either

  26. travellingbee

    hostess / papaya / 10219 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: Oh my goodness those boys are ADORABLE! I just wanna snuggle them! I'd love to hear how you nap trained them.

    @Smurfette: So sorry your sleep has been so terrible! We are in size 3 diapers (went up at 15lbs even though they say 16lbs but L is tall and he was peeing out of the 2's everytime. That's always been our signal to go up a size.)

    Lukas has been waking up from naps absolutely screaming. Like a horror movie screaming. Has anyone had this? I can't figure out what is wrong and why he is screaming like this? He also did it this morning when he woke up at 6. I had fed him at 4 so I know he wasn't starving, but feeding did soothe him.

  27. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Smurfette: You're a strong lady!

  28. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Smurfette: oh my gosh, i don't know how you are functioning! and agree that fighting while you have a screaming baby in your arms is the worst. i tried to let J CIO last night, and he cried for at least 30 min, but it was disruptive to N who sleeps in the next room - we had already put her down, but she was tossing and turning (i think she couldn't fall asleep cuz she could hear the crying), so she climbed out of bed and opened the door to J's nursery, and that pretty much ruined the CIO for the night! we had to put them back to bed.

    @Adira: nope, he thinks they remedied it and will be too scared to let anything like that happen ever again (they were very apologetic and felt terrible - the director cried when we talked to her about it)... and he doesn't think the other stuff is *that* bad. he'd let us switch if we can find something else comparable in price. we've looked at other places, but neither of us really like the options in the same price range. and i agree with him that it is only worth switching her from a place she likes going to if the place is significantly better.

  29. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Adira: on the diapers, I usually move them up to the next size when they are a pound or two away from the official start weight. I feel like the old size gets too tight and causes blowouts, but if I just cinch up the new size it seems to work better.

    @Smurfette: Do you think she's hitting the 4-month sleep regression a couple weeks early? I'm so sorry about the lack of sleep. That suuuucks! Hope you can drink lots of coffee today!

  30. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Smurfette: agree with @travellingbee: about possibly moving up a size. we moved up to size 3's too around the 14-15 lb range and it was a great move on our part. i'm ready to move him up to size 4's because even the size 3's seem a little snug on him now.

    @travellingbee: oh poor baby!! sorry i have no idea why he might be doing that... could it be teething?

  31. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: Well, I hope for your LO's sake that your husband is right and that she'll never get fed peanut butter again! And I can see the perspective of not wanting to switch her from someplace she likes unless you can find somewhere that's amaze-balls.

    @Mrs. Blue: Ohhh, interesting! Maybe when I run out of my current set of diapers, I'll try the 3's.

    @travellingbee: Xander woke up like that a couple times in the past couple days, but he was definitely just hungry because feeding him calmed him down (and he was due for food). Not sure what's going on with your LO! Could something be making him uncomfortable? Like his diaper or his outfit?

  32. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: I have no idea how you sleep train with an older child around! Our boys just sleep through the other crying, so it wasn't a problem. Poor N was probably worried about J! That's pretty darn cute.

  33. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: I think now it is the 4 month sleep regression. . I thought that at first cause it was sick. That or she got use to use soothing her when she woke up when sick, so now she won't put herself back to sleep. I wish that I liked coffee.

    @Mrs. High Heels: Aww, poor N. Maybe you need to get her some ear plugs so you can sleep train J. We moved R up to size 2's early cause they were getting tight on her chunky thighs, so bad leaving marks. Usually when she has a diaper explosion, it comes out the sides cause the poop will all go on one side, depending on how she is sitting. But I think I am going to pick up some at Target this weekend and try them. We usually buy 200+ box at Costco. But I don't want another 200 2's if she will need to move to 3's before then. She is only 12.7lbs so she is still a while from the weight for the 3's.

  34. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @travellingbee: R does that sometimes as well. I don't understand why either. Usually we take her outside and that is our magic weapon and it calms her down.

  35. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: I have no idea you sleep train two at once! It's pretty amazing they can CIO with the other right there. Yea, she was concerned.. she went in and asked, "What's wrong Baby Jaren, what's wrong?" - I think what we'll try in the future is put J down first and let him CIO... then once he's asleep, put N down. J usually falls asleep around 7:30, and N around 8:30-9 so I think that should work.

  36. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: Oh my gahhhh! That is precious! Sibling love gets me every time! Since you sleep trained early with N, I have a question for you. Did you still feel like she hit the typical sleep regression? If so, how did you handle it and how did you get her back to sleeping? We're not quite there, but I'm getting nervous about it,

    @Smurfette: Yikes! I cannot even fathom functioning without coffee. You're a trooper. Hopefully, her sleep regression will be short & sweet.

  37. travellingbee

    hostess / papaya / 10219 posts

    So I'm off dairy because of the suspected milk allergy for L but last night I had goat cheese b/c I thought that would be ok. He has been spitting up majorly every few minutes this am. So I guess we can't do goats milk either.

  38. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @travellingbee: I am sorry. I know how hard it is to give it up.

  39. twobee

    grape / 75 posts

    Good lord this thread moves fast!

    @travellingbee: We've had this happen occasionally too, for a couple of days at a time - no explanation but I feel your pain! The only times we thought we might have some idea of the cause was when we'd move one of the girls after she was asleep - we tried having them sleep on separate floors when we were sleep training but couldn't put them to bed that way because our pack-n-play is in the living room. We gave up because Kate seemed so scared when she'd wake up downstairs.

    @Mrs. High Heels: I can't imagine the conversation you had with your daycare director after the peanut butter incident. I would have been playing it out in my head over and over for months after. That is absolutely outrageous.

    @Smurfette: I hope things turn around for you soon! You are doing an amazing job on so little sleep - when our sleep was at its worst I was so frustrated, and you manage to just be sweet about R even when you are exhausted. Hoping she feels better and you both get a good night's sleep soon - you both need it!

    @Adira: We are still in size 2's also and I hate trying to figure out whether or not to order more of this size or go up to the next. We moved up from size 1 after a few leak incidents. We haven't had anything happen yet in 2's, but they are starting to look small, and I still have most of a big case left - I hate to waste them! We can definitely pass them on to friends with newer babies, but there is something so satisfying about having the exact right amount.

    @ALV91711: While I don't wish a hot baby on anyone, I am 100% convinced that a baby in just a diaper is about the cutest thing that exists. So at least there's that!

    @Mrs. Blue: We sleep trained at around 3 months and didn't have much, if any, regression - just a few days of waking up once or twice, but nothing that required more than a pacifier. Worst case scenario we may have swaddled one of the girls in the middle of the night. I was so nervous waiting for the other shoe to drop, though - once we sleep trained I think I still lost sleep worrying about whether we'd be able to keep them on track at 4 months. Funny thing - I mentioned being worried about a sleep regression at 4 months to our pediatrician and he had never heard of that being a particularly difficult period. I sometimes wonder if we make more of these things because it helps remind us that there is an end in sight - like blaming any kind of fussiness on teething. Bottom line is that I think all babies are different - but for @Smurfette's sake I hope that this is a phase and sleep gets back to normal soon!

    Last night I was up with Caroline at 3 - she was crying a lot harder than it sounds when they are sort of fussing in their sleep. So I went in and discovered that the source of her frustration was that she had rolled onto her stomach! I have never seen her do it, but she was doing a ton of tossing and turning from one side to the other this morning, so I think she must have carried herself over with momentum. And then forgotten how to roll back over. So maybe we can't quite call her an expert roller yet. She's moving around so much in her sleep now! When I got her this morning she was on her side with her feet sticking through the slats of the crib. I am a little worried she is going to hurt herself or get them caught, but I don't know if I want to put in a bumper either. Any advice?

  40. Mrs. Grizzly Bear

    GOLD / grapefruit / 4555 posts

    @twobee: That's why I had to start another one, our other thread was too full!

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