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@Torchwood: that's great!!!! On average R goes down at 10pm, and wakes up around 4 or 5 to nurse, and then sleeps again til 7ish.
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@Mrs. J: Typically between 8 or 9, but OH and I are early risers. He starts work at 5:30 and I start at 7 so her bedtime works well with our bedtimes!
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@Mrs. J: It has been 10.30-11ish but the past few nights she has been falling asleep earlier. Last night she was asleep at 9pm! Then she slept 9pm-3am
We've had smiles since 5 weeks and had our first giggle 2 days ago.
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@MrsStar: omg a giggle!!
So along the same lines, what is everyone's bedtime routine? Like I mentioned R is usually up for 4-5 hours before bedtime which means she is overtired and I don't even know what to do! So we just nurse/rock to sleep.
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Also, are you guys dressing up baby for Halloween? We don't actually have any plans so it seems silly to do so. Not like we can trick or treat! What about y'all?
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@buttermilk: Generally (but not the past two nights) C gets a bottle at 8pm or whenever she wakes up if she decided to take a nap after her 5pm feeding. Then I hold her and walk in a dining room-kitchen-hall-dining room circle for five minutes then put her in the RnP. Sometimes she is asleep but usually she fusses for 10 minutes and then falls asleep. If she poops at night all bets are off. She hates to sleep about two hours before and two hours after a dirty diaper. Even her daycare reports show this during the day!
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@buttermilk: I found a sleeper with a skeleton on it (so that C's head is the head) for $5 at Walmart so she's wearing that for daycare on the 30th.
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@buttermilk: Our bedtime routine is just change, swaddle, bottle, and rock to sleep. Since we don't swaddle during the day, that's a change from her daytime routine.
We're going to a Halloween party, so we got a cupcake costume for L. We're doing basically what's in this picture. I have a cute cupcake apron to wear! We also got her a cupcake outfit to wear since the costume is bulky and she'll probably just wear it for pictures.
Also, she's turned into the smiliest, happiest baby lately! She just smiles and coos all the time.
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We nurse to sleep lol. He gets white noise. We haven't been swaddling the past few nights.
My oldest is being a construction worker, so L is gonna be a traffic cone. I'm going to wear him in the ergo and cover that with orange felt. He will have a little cone hat.
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@Mrs. J: omg, I cannot wait to see that!! J is gonna be so cute!!!!
I kinda need to get on the ball regarding costumes....oops!
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Hi!
Baby H is 9 weeks old..I can't believe it! Time is just flying. She had her two shots yesterday and she was super sleepy afterwards.
Sleep is getting better. She has been doing 5-6 hour stretches (one fluke 8 hour night!) for the past week but bedtime isn't consistent yet...anywhere between 9-11. I remember LO 2 was down earlier around this age so hopefully I can move that up!
@buttermilk: I want to find a frog costume!
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Halloween isn't a big thing here so we won't be doing anything, I love seeing babies in costumes though!
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K@buttermilk: E is going to be a flower. I found a sleeper at the consignment store that's green with a hood that has pink petals framing Her face. My son wants to be a pumpkin. I'm taking the easy way out... I bought him a long sleeve t from carters that has a jack-o-lantern face. I'm going to put him in black pants and im going to make him a "stem" with a paper plate and a wine cork.
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Right now N goes down around 8pm and then usually wakes up to eat around 1:30/2 and again at 4:30/5. DD is up at 6:45 so we are all generally up for the day then. I can't wait until we get down to one MOTN wake up! We aren't doing anything special in terms of a bedtime routine yet- just diaper change, woombie and white noise.
For Halloween, I got a skeleton sleeper for N (maybe the same one as @mrs.rv!). DD wants to be a witch. We are going to a fall family picnic for DH's work this weekend so the kids will get to try their costumes out!
I can't believe how big our August babies are getting- gong on 2 months already! It also means my maternity leave us half over - wah! When is everyone else going back to work (assuming you are, of course)?
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@abmamma: I go back the 19th
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@abmamma: nov. 9th for me
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@abmamma my 12 wks would technically be up around Thanksgiving so that would be going back like around Nov 30 (Monday after Thanksgiving). BUT before I went out I talked to my boss about not coming back until Jan 4 (the 1st Monday after new years), because our office is closed for a week at Christmas so it's really only 3 extra weeks. She said she was OK with it so I am thinking Jan 4. I HOPE.
Bedtime routine... really just nurse, wait for the spit up/reflux screaming to subside, super loud white noise (vacuum cleaner) to get the crying to stop, rocking in the glider, swaddle, rocking standing up if that doesn't work. LOL. You cannot put him down awake, unfortunately.
The last 2 nights, miracle of miracles, have been a lot better. We got a 4.5-5 hour stretch of sleep to start the night, then another 3-4 hour stretch after his wake up!! I am still expecting it to fall apart at any moment though. But it has been so amazing having 2 nights in a row of 6-7 hours of sleep.
It's still really hot here on Halloween and M will only be 9 weeks so don't think we will be doing much. He has a "My First Halloween" onesie he might wear. He has an ADORABLE Mickey Mouse costume my friend got him but it's 6 month size. I will probably put it on him anyway to take a few pics (including matching baby size Mickey ears!).
M went back to the GI on Monday. He switched him from Prevacid to Nexium, he said some babies respond better to it because his reflux is still really bad. He is also on Zantac and Carafate. I am continuing on the elimination diet and also eliminating wheat and corn because we think he may have been reacting to those (reflux was a lot worse after a day when I had pasta and a lot of pretzels, and REALLY bad after a day when I had corn chex, grits, and mixed vegetables with corn). I don't mind but corn is in EVERYTHING (corn syrup, cornstarch)... so it is forcing me to eat healthier. I've only lost 3 lbs in 3 weeks on the diet though, probably because I am eating a ton of potatoes covered in olive oil!
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@abmamma: Jan 4th for me but my boss had a coworker call and ask if I had any interest in returning in December.
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@MrsADS: so glad you got some much needed sleep!!! it makes a big difference.
pretty sure we are headed into the 2nd wonder week today. Yay!
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@torchwood OMG what a doll baby!!! She's so cute.
When did everyone's LO start smiling? M is 6 weeks old and no smiles yet...
Also he's generally unhappy a lot of the time when he is awake (reflux) so I feel like he will never smile! I see a lot of people saying they are getting smiles from 7 week olds and I guess I don't really see that happening with him.Also random, but I have developed pretty bad knee pain, I feel like I am 100 years old! I am pretty sure it's from hauling a 10.5 lb baby around and all the rocking of said giant baby. But now my knees kill when I walk up and down the stairs or bend down and get something. Ugh!
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@MrsADS: my LO gave me an intentional smile today at 9 weeks! I think it was her first.
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Bedtime here is 9 pm. We start with pajamas and diaper, then go into our bedroom for snuggles and story with mommy and daddy, then swaddle and nursing to sleep in the dark with the white noise machine on.
For Halloween, P has a outfit with a kitty face, so that is what she will wear when we go to our friend's house for dinner. Low key!
We started getting smiles about a week ago at 9 weeks. Still kinds hard to get from her, but so special when we do!
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@MrsADS: E started smiling around 5/6 weeks. But I wouldn't stress about it. kids do things in their own time.
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@MrsADS: She started doing reflexive smiles forever ago (before she was term?), but the responsive ones have only been in the last few weeks. She's 15 weeks, 8 adjusted. Though from what the others are saying she might have been early on this one.
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@MrsADS: R started making intentional smiles at 5/6 weeks but they were mostly unprovoked and I didn't know what she was smiling at. She is 7.5 Wks now and I just started (in the past 2-3 days) getting real smiles back from her when I sing and talk to her if she is in a good mood.
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Man no matter what I do I totally fail every evening. Today her last nap was at 3:30. She just won't settle down after like 5pm. If I could get another nap out of her it would be easier. But she Just fusses, nurses & dozes off at the breast every evening. And i always try to wait til 9 or 10 to put her to bed bc I'm afraid doing it earlier will ruin her night sleep or make her wake up earlier. I don't know what to do but DH and I just got into a big fight about it.
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@buttermilk: ugh, that's the worst, and I've totally been there with DH. It's so hard to know what to do isn't it?
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@buttermilk: wonder week! P started her 8-9 wonder week a bit early, and was similar. Survive the next week, and it will get better! at almost 10 weeks, P has started wanting play time around 6-7 pm, which is great because DH gets to interact with her more, and he has been getting smiles from her, and it really has been good for his morale!
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@Mrs. Microscope: We're the same. L has gotten really active in the evenings, which is when DH has her. It's so fun to watch him singing and playing with her and her smiling and cooing back! And she's started giving a big cheesy grin if I have her and he comes up and kisses her. Daddy's girl already!
L slept TWELVE hours with only one wake up last night! I have high sleep needs, so I am unbelievably happy. Not getting sleep is really bad for my mood and pushes me towards depression (which I have a history of). Hopefully she keeps it up for a while at least!
Speaking of, I'm actually doing better on the PPD front than I expected, but I'm still struggling with anxiety. I check that she's breathing a LOT. I can't imagine how anyone has their baby in a separate room at night. I'd never sleep. As it is I sleep with my hand on her chest, and if I wake up and my hand isn't on her I have to immediately check on her.
Also, we lost R because of severe fetal hydrocephalus. That meant I got lots of ultrasounds with L to be sure her brain was developing correctly. But I'm not pregnant anymore, so no more check ins to see that things are good. She's hitting her milestones and her head isn't unusually big (the pressure from a hydro can cause the head to grow faster), so I have no reason to think anything is wrong, but it's hard not to worry. I miss the reassurance of seeing her brain every few weeks. (Which sounds super weird. Brains!)
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Oh, and there was a discussion on here about pacifiers that I missed. Just to throw in my 2 cents- I planned to skip them, but like a lot of plans I had, that changed with the nicu stay. They gave her one immediately. Sucking releases endorphins for babies, so it's to help keep them from being too stressed, and it helps them learn to suck when they're so tiny. We switched to tommee tippee one's a while back, and she loves them. She's started sucking on her hand some now too, which is a bit easier since it can't fall out, but I like the pacifier.
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So I'm curious about everyone's MOTN routine. Do you do all the work yourself? Does DH get up and help with any part of it?
For us, if she wakes up with gas pain DH will do some massages and burp her for a bit before handing her to me to nurse. He may change her diaper too if needed. Then he dozes, or sometimes checks his phone while I nurse, and then I nurse her mostly to sleep before handing her off to him to finish rocking and put back down while I try to get back to sleep.
Most of the time he is okay with this but sometimes, like last night, he argues that it doesn't make sense to have 2 sleep deprived ppl and that I should just do everything. It takes like 45 mins to burp and nurse her and I just want him to finish rocking her for me so I can get some sleep too!! Plus I'm still on maternity leave now, but pretty soon we will both be waking up early for work.
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@buttermilk: With LO1, DH would change his diaper every time while I went to pee (I'm sooo thirsty at night while nursing!) and I'd nurse him and then lay him back down. He was good about falling to sleep on his own, so just a little bouncing would get him drowsy enough and then I'd put him in the RnP/crib.
This time is a little different because DH handles our toddler if he wakes up early, so that I can sleep in a bit. So I basically do everything in the MOTN because I can handle that better than waking up super early. Plus, at this point, I'm way faster than DH when it comes to changing/swaddling
I think, especially once you go back to work, you guys should come up with some sort of system! You shouldn't be the only one losing sleep!!
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@Torchwood: I can definitely relate to the anxiety. Especially with my first, I was a mess. All I can say is, for me, it got easier as he got older. That, and I started taking meds for PPA. I still worry about both of them a LOT, but it's manageable now.
And we didn't move LO1 to his room until 12 months.
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@buttermilk: I do everything in the middle of the night. With my first my DH would wake up and help me when i changed diapers for the first couple of weeks but after that it's always been all me, unless I wake him up and ask for help. I stay home and with my first, could nap when he did. I didn't always but I could. He has higher sleep needs than me and it's not worth the stress it puts on our relationship when he's sleep deprived.
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MOTN stuff is the one thing that really helped getting over have to move to 100% formula feeding. C gets up at 2 or 3 and OH just does everything. I stay in bed, generally. I'm spoiled.
In all fairness, I'm the one that gets her to bed and I make the MOTN bottle and stick it in the fridge so all he has to do is stick it in the warmer.
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@OhCaptain: ". He has higher sleep needs than me and it's not worth the stress it puts on our relationship when he's sleep deprived."<-- this
L doesn't really wake up but dh does toddler wake ups and I did basically everything with number one unless I couldn't get him back down and it was clearly not hunger related. I have to wake DH up for any help anyway, even when the toddler gets up.
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For the first month, I did all the MOTN stuff, but it was exhausting, even though P is a good sleeper. I have high sleep needs, but DH has to wake up early for work... I didn't want him to suffer. After an ugly cry breakdown, he convinced me to wake him for diaper changes. So now, if I hear a big poop, I wake him up for a diaper change while I pee and get ready to nurse (right now that means washing the gynelotrimin from my nipple). The plan is to eventually have him do the 5-6 feeding by bottle, but I need to build my stash. I will start pumping again next week once we are off the thrush meds.
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@buttermilk: During the week I handle all MOTN wake ups. DH works (and is under a lot of stress right now), so it just makes more sense. Also, I really have to pump at least once during the night, so I need to be up anyway. On the weekends (fri/sat nights) I usually get her to sleep and then take her to him when she wakes up (he sleeps in the nursery when he's going to handle wake ups, so that she doesn't wake me up) and he has her from there. I just skip the pump and deal with the engorgement in favor of sleep. (Note- he wouldn't care if he had her in the nursery with him all night; I just can't fall asleep at first without her.) If I'm super tired during the week he does that one night for me.
Though tonight I think I'm going to have him put her down and I'll take the first wake up. Lately she's been going down at 11-12, and waking up the first time at 6. If I go to bed at 9-10, I can get a lot of sleep and still go back to sleep after the 6 wake up if I want.
As for routine, pump while I feed her then quick rock back to sleep. She doesn't pee much at night, so I rarely need to change her, and keeping her swaddled means she falls right back to sleep.
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@buttermilk: with LO1, I did everything in the MOTN while on maternity leave. To be honest, I was a little resentful after awhile since the sleep deprivation hit harder for me after 2 months (DD was not a great sleeper). Once I went back, DH was on the hook for helping with non-hunger related wake ups. With N, DH is helpng more- I'm EPing so he gives N a bottle while I pump. I don't get to sleep in at all with DD needing to get up and ready for preschool/child care in the morning (and I do most of that) so I really need DH to pitch in. Like @OhCaptain and @Mrs.J he has higher sleep needs and gets easily frustrated with N in the middle of the night (N hates burping) but until N is consistently sleeping more at night I need his help, otherwise I might not be able to function (it also keeps the resentment on my side away)! He's handling it ok so far.
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I do all the MOTN stuff since dh works weird hours (5am-3.30pm one week and 3pm-2.30am the next week) I've wanted to punch him in the face on a number of occassions as he's snoring away while I'm up with lo.
He annoyed me this morning. Lo woke up and had a feed and a bum change and decided she was having way too much fun smiling to go to sleep. I ended up trying to put her in her bassinet to see if she would drift off. She starting cooing/talking instead. Dh (who obviously hadn't been asleep this whole time) said "well that backfired" then rolled over and went back to sleep! Argh. I've told him many times that I would love his help when I'm up with lo but get nothing.
And that's my rant for the day!
Also he's generally unhappy a lot of the time when he is awake (reflux) so I feel like he will never smile! I see a lot of people saying they are getting smiles from 7 week olds and I guess I don't really see that happening with him.
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