pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Mae: I have never used a pillow, so I have no idea what that is like!
Omg I live for the ouchy nipples to end!
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: do you just hold your lo up? My arms get tired if she isn't resting on something!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Mae: I guess so? I haven't even thought about how I do it before, but yah! Sometimes my arms do get tired and I prop on the arm of the chair or lift my leg up and lean on that, or grab onto my other arm.
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: I'm impressed! I do that occasionally when I am on the couch and can sit cross legged and prop her up on a leg... but when I try to just hold her up my arms get way too tired. You must have some guns I still wouldn't BF in public yet though bc of the latch pain. I make the most awful cringe face and often have to grit my teeth a bit to get through... not something I want other people witnessing haha. I hope that I am able to BF in public soon so I can be a bit more mobile!
pomegranate / 3350 posts
@cookie_dough: wow I can't even imagine dealing with all that you have recently. Love the photos of your little guy. He's so cute!
@Mae: The feeding situation sounds frustrating but at least it seems like you're getting into a better place. Must be such a relief to finally have a content baby! I think the nursing in public and without a pillow will just come with time. At this point with W there was no way I would've even considered doing it and this time I've been nursing in public since the first week with just a blanket.
@Beebug: how fun that you went to the zoo! Our excursions have been limited to walks, the playground, and stores. I will have to be more adventurous soon. Sorry about the knee. That doesn't sound very good.
So we got through our first week alone although my step mom stopped by on Thursday and helped with nap time. It was a lot easier than I expected except G was screaming while I tried to put W down for his nap yesterday. Today has been tricky getting him to nap too so I hope this is not just a new thing. Tomorrow G will be one month old. We had his appointment and he's up to 9 lbs 11 oz and 22in. He seems like a giant baby compared to W! I think he was 7 lbs something and 20 in at this point.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@Beebug: so sorry about your grandma! And jealous about your zooventure. DH is being a total first time parent and doesn't want us to go anywhere with G until he has his shots. Not even for a walk in our gated community for fear that neighbors will touch him. Thankfully we've compromised and have gone on lots of long drives (the breeze hitting my face after so much indoor time is amazing!) and one trip to our engagement site which is high up a hill with a lookout point and an amazing view!
@Mae: The first time I nursed in public was when Gio was two weeks old. We were at my post partum check up and he needed to be fed so I whipped it out in the crowded waiting room. DH was totally uneasy with my boob being out, especially since a random dude was close to me. I understand that but I really just cared about feeding my crying baby! I tried to be discreet with a blanket but two weeks in I could barely coordinate all of that. I'm so sure I flashed everyone, lol.
Has anyone started feeling overwhelmed with visitors? I was up to my neck with it Thursday. DH's family is huge and super close (8 aunts and uncle on each side, lots of cousins etc) and they all love within twenty minutes of us. Also, Gio is his grandparent's first grandchild and the only baby (under three) in the entire family right now. In other words everyone is obsessed with him and wants to drop by every minute! I have said no a couple times when we both just needed to rest, but sometimes people come and stay soooo long, just passing him around and watching him sleep. It gets me frustrated especially during those times I could be sleeping too! I vented to DH about it since it's all his family (mine all live overseas) and I don't know or care what he said but no one came to visit Friday or Saturday so we finally had quiet time as a family of 3! I hope things don't go back to crazy next week.
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: aw so cute! And I'm just way too private to whip boobs out in public at this point! Whenever we have gone out (only to doc appts so far!) I've taken a bottle of pumped milk to give her. Also YES on visitors! I was so annoyed our first weekend home when my mom let ppl come over both days. And now we have had my inlaws staying with us for the last 8 days. I'm really ready for some privacy in my own home. Luckily the parade is about over here. I still have a few friends who haven't gotten to meet her due to family being here so much, but they are all so considerate and patient I'm looking forward to their (undoubtedly short) visits.
kiwi / 687 posts
You are all such wonderful mothers!
I quickly just tried to catch up and can't really respond individually, but it's so beautiful how everyone is making the transition and learning about their babies and what they need - figuring out the reflux and supply issues and sleep preferences and balancing our partners (and ILs) at the same time! Seems like you're all such heroes!
I never really told our birth story, so I've been wanting to share - we were kind of in a similar situation to you, @junebugmama: where they were thinking we might be > 11lbs, and throughout the pregnancy we'd been given all this stress about the weight, the weight, the weight! Different for us, I suppose because it was my first pregnancy. Anyway, our last sonogram on my due date estimated only 9lb 2oz, which was a pound less than the one two weeks prior had estimated. But for some reason everyone was willing to just go with it, so we had our chance at a vaginal delivery. They put the pressure on to schedule induction right at 41wks, so we did, but the night before I called and said we're not coming in, doesn't feel right, let's push it back a few days. As soon as we hung up the phone, I had a newly interesting strong contraction!
Was able to sleep through them that night, but in the morning they picked up. I had NST/BPP postdates testing scheduled since I'd postponed induction and we went in to the hospital. Even though I'd already told the nurse I thought I was in latent labor, she called the attending MD in when she saw the contractions on the monitor. He called my midwife, who came over to check me - no change from the office days prior, 2cm/50%/-3. She wanted to admit me to break my water and give an enema. I said, no thanks, I want to labor properly, and went home.
They picked up in the car on the way home, around 4pm one made me cry. Started to really believe this was labor. By 6:30pm I was really working and we called my parents to drive up (5hrs away). We labored all night long - contractions were long, like 2-3min in duration, but still spaced, like 6-7min apart. We didn't get much sleep except a few minute intervals between then overnight. In the morning, they slowed down a lot, like 10-12min apart. We got me some food and drink, then tried sexy stuff and nipple stimulation to pick them back up, but as soon as we stopped, they'd slow down again. By 4pm (24hrs after the first strong contraction) we were frustrated and exhausted and went into the hospital. I was shocked to hear I was 5cm/90%! No descent since the day before, and contractions were still spaced, but it was so satisfying to know my work had done something.
Baby was having some decelerations with the contractions, so we had to be continuously monitored, but I was still able to move around a fair amount. We waited a few hours and my cervix still made no change. My bag of waters was bulging so we decided to break it. Contractions picked up a lot and we were hopeful. Four more hours (around midnight) my exam was the same, still no descent. Baby was having more, longer decelerations especially when I had these whopper 4-5min long contractions. The labor pattern was pretty dysfunctional and midwife thought baby felt asynclitic (like coming down crooked), and despite hours of lots of position changes and being upright and active, it wasn't changing.
We decided to get me an epidural, hoping maybe a little relaxation would open my cervix. The epidural was totally insane (I cannot believe that technology exists. I could feel my baby moving and move my legs and maneuver myself easily, but couldn't feel contractions. So weird.) but didn't affect my cervix. My blood pressure dropped with it and baby stressed out some more. We were all really feeling like probably I was headed for cesarean.
After two hours with epidural, and more decelerations, and no change in my cervix (over at least 8hrs at that point), we made the call and went for surgery. Apparently the boy was super wedged in my pelvis and the surgeon hurt her shoulder trying so hard to get him out, and the pediatrician said his head was dented (temporary thing!) from where he was mashed up against my sacrum.
He was 9lb 11oz and 22in long - now at two weeks he's already 11lb 6oz! So we think he really likes to grow. Meanwhile at my incision check I'd already lost 25 of the 30lbs I gained, so I finally have some peace of mind that his growth wasn't the result of some excessive indulgence on my part.
My emotional and physical recovery from cesarean have been smooth, I've been really really lucky. I feel like I was really given a reasonable chance at vaginal birth, which I appreciate. Nursing is going pretty well (evidenced by his weight gain!) but I do seem to have an overactive let-down or maybe oversupply that makes him really angry at my breast and sometimes we're really fighting at the start of feeds. Got some tips from pediatrician and lactation consultant that hopefully will help over the next days. Wish I could share with you, @Mae: !
All our guests have left now, and DH is back at work this week, so it's about to get real! I agree @Glitter: that I'm ready for things to quiet down so we can really feel out who we are as a family. I'll probably have some friends pop in through the week for short visits, but no more house guests for a while.
Hope that wasn't too long! I really enjoyed reading others' birth experiences, so hopefully somebody enjoys ours
kiwi / 687 posts
ETA: deleted accidental duplicate post! been so long since I was on here, apparently I forgot how it works!
papaya / 10343 posts
@anandam: so glad your LO made it out safe, and you are a rock star for enduring that ridiculously long labor!! So many tilted babies here... stubborn! I hope you work out your nursing struggles as well! Fia fights me on latch a lot of times for the opposite reason I think... ever since we started supplementing she is fussier at the boob... we think because my milk takes a bit to get flowing and she is pissed off that it isn't coming right away. She latches on and off and hits my boob with her hands. It is frustrating and a bit painful... but also sort of... funny? Lol does that make me a bad person? I mean I feel badly that she is so frustrated but it also cracks me up a little bc I'm like omg girl just CALM DOWN IT'S COMING. I feel like she's just a little bit dramatic... (but this is probably all babies I suppose... but still makes me laugh a little. I think she genuinely believes she is going to starve to death... approximately every 90 minutes... haha).
kiwi / 687 posts
@Mae: Sounds like they do similar things! Even the hitting the boob thing, which yes, I agree is sort of heartbreakingly funny. Only difference is that mine also flies off coughing and trying to catch his breath like he's drowning and that's what starts his frustration. It has been hard on me feeling like I'm failing him by taking this thing that's supposed to be so holy and sacred and calming and instead have made it quite stressful for him.
papaya / 10343 posts
@anandam: Could you pump a little to lesson how full you are and maybe not drown him right away? I hope he at least calms down after a few minutes! Usually it only takes 2-3min max for her to calm down and be happy. So usually I just have to keep latching her back on and trying to hold her there and telling her "calm down... it's coming... I promise it's coming just caaallllllmmmm down....." while trying not to laugh at her dramatics.
kiwi / 687 posts
@Mae: Yes, I tried that for the first time today and it did seem to mellow that session. I'm nervous to stimulate worse overproduction, though. Haha I always spend those first minutes singing him the 59th Street Bridge song, "Slow down, you move too fast..." to maybe encourage less vigorous sucking?
papaya / 10343 posts
@anandam: If only our boobs could get together and split the difference.... we would have 2 happy babies and 2 happy mamas!
persimmon / 1281 posts
@anandam: thanks! All the babies here are Sooo gorgeous!
Gio is funny too when he's about to get the boob. I've thought of posting a video on here about how he gets but that would be a little tmi! He behaves like the world is gonna end if that nipple isn't placed in his mouth RIGHT NOW! He does a vigorous head bopping, mouth wide open, slam head into chest thing and the second the boob is inside he sucks furiously and hyperventilates. Calm. Down. Dude. Sometimes I tease him and take it away just before he grabs on to see him get on all wild, lol! Yeh I'm terrible.
Is everyone taking their LOs for shots at six weeks? How many and which are they getting?
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: hahaha totally. I swear Fiona thinks she is dying of hunger all the time. It's pretty funny except when she actually manages to grab my nipple because owwwwwwwww.
No 6 week shots here. We have a 4 week and 8 week appointment. Not sure what shots she gets at each... but the 4 week appointment is Tuesday so I can let you know after I go!
Also, btw, this is my first week home alone with Fia and I'm so nervous! Doing everything myself, pumping while watching her, 3 appointments (my OB for wound check, her 4 week appt, and LC) when I still am not allowed to pick up her carrier, and just possibly feeling a bit lonely at home all week with her. It's going to be sooo weird to be home all week and not working (not that taking care of her isn't work, but since I usually work from home it will just feel weird to be home and not be doing work.)
pomegranate / 3350 posts
@anandam: wow what a big boy!!! I think my supply is starting to get itself worked out but my guy also seems to drown in milk sometimes. It seems to help if I keep him on one side per feeding in the morning. He will sometimes take breaks so for a two hour stretch I only offer one side and it seems to help drain that side si the rest of the day it's not crazy full.
@Glitter: aww he is so cute! We have been pretty strict about limiting visitors but I agree that they can be annoying. Especially since I have implemented family nap time from 1-2 pm that is skipped when we have guests. I need that sleep desperately so I resent anyone that takes it away.
@Mae: You will do great this week! Pretty soon you'll have a routine down and the weekends will feel weird.
persimmon / 1281 posts
I just had to throw away 5 ounces of breastmilk because I did not know it couldn't be thawed in the refrigerator for over 24 hrs I could cry right now.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Glitter: he doesn't look like a baby in that most recent pic! So cute!!
@anandam: yay birth story! Thanks for sharing! We should all re post ours over a stretch! Or I should go back and re-read, still love reading them and feel like they call came and are here now so quick! As much as the waiting got a little tiresome at times for those overdue! Awesome on weight gain so far, I'm curious on how much C2 has gained so far!
Is anyone with toe curling nipple pain felt any let up in pain yet? I am putting on lanolin, and making sure I get a better latch, but so far no let up in pain at all for initial latch, omg the pain!
Also, vaginal birth momma's (I think, do c sect births have pp bleeding?) anyways! How is everyone doing in that regard? I bled for 6w with C1, and period came right after! I am 3w2d pp now and think bleeding is pretty done? Kind of nice, but not getting too excited yet, could be tricking me.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@Beebug: just had my second and final post partum check up at 5w 1d pp and I'm all healed yay! My bleeding was trickling for the last three weeks or so but it finally came to a halt about three days ago.
Got the depo. Doc is convinced we'll want another baby before 2016. Ha, we'll see. DH is happy the wait is (almost) over. I do feel excited for sexy time again.. Not sure how we're gonna work it out with G in our room yet tho!
Also my latch pain fluctuates. When it seems to be getting worse I apply lanolin cream multiple times a day and that helps. Or I use pumped milk and give my nipples a break. Or both.
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: Nope, still dealing with toe curling hold my breath type pain! The LC last week said I have some pretty serious nipple damage (both have big cracks in them ) and recommended all purpose nipple ointment. I got an rx for it from my midwives and have been using it for the last week-- nothing! She said I should see improvement and feel relief in 24-48 hrs but its been a full week and if anything it is hurting a bit more. Sigh. I called her today to see if she could recommend anything before my appointment on Wednesday and she said to give up on the APNO and just go back to lanolin. But she also said that on Wed we are going to talk about some long term solutions for me because what I'm doing right now obviously isn't working. So... curious to see what she says!
Re bleeding-- ugh still going! I'm super annoyed by it. I started out with really light bleeding so I was hopeful it wouldn't last long, but as soon as I got home and especially once I started being more active it really picked up. Days when I'm really good about restricting activity it is still like a light period, but when I'm average-active (as in-- just moving freely around my house and maybe running into target) it picks up to a full normal period type bleeding. The midwives say I need to dial back my activity but it is just really hard... we live in a 5 level split so everything is on different levels and I really can't just stay in one area. I'm 4 weeks tomorrow so I'm hoping I see some big improvement in the next week or two.
Also, again, omg stupid incision HEAL ALREADY. This is prob way tmi but I miss sex with my husband! Not even for the physical aspect really but I feel like we've both been so stressed out and if we could regain that part of our relationship (even at a reduced level due to exhaustion and caring for LO!) it would help us just be a bit more connected. But no dice until the bleeding stops and the incision is healed!
Lastly, I have to share--- we are having such a great night! Fiona has been so good this afternoon/evening. After not sleeping last night much, and crying most of the morning, she was finally happy after finishing nursing around 3pm, and stayed awake and happy from like 3-4. Then fell asleep on me at 4 and stayed asleep until I woke her up at 515 to nurse. Then she wanted a bottle, which I gave her. Then she fell right back asleep and let me put her in the rock n play--- which NEVER happens! DH and I got to make and eat dinner together and have a whole conversation! She's still sleeping! I'm about to wake her up to nurse again and put her to bed. Sort of really scared she won't sleep tonight since she has been sleeping basically since 4pm except for nursing... but she didn't sleep at all yesterday afternoon/evening then was up all night. So obviously NOT sleeping doesn't make her sleep. Maybe sleeping will make her sleep? lol. I dunno. Fingers crossed I get some sleep tonight.. I only got 4 hrs last night so I could use it
pomegranate / 3350 posts
@Beebug: It's been about 4.5 weeks for me and the bleeding is mostly gone. I'll go a couple days with nothing and then feel almost like a gush and have a tiny bit of pink. It's been like this at least a week. Last time I think it stopped by around 4 weeks and then I had a couple days of light spotting just before my 6 week appointment. As far as nipple pain, I think because I never stopped nursing I avoided it this time but I remember how awful it ws. Ouch, hope it starts feeling better soon.
@Mae: I hear you on too much activity because of house layout. Ours is 3 stories and we don't have a bathroom on the main level so my bleeding got a lot heavier once we got home. Plus DH was not as helpful as he could have been and I was carrying the laundry and a fiesty toddlet up and down all 3 levels. Not nearly as big an issue as you, healing from a c sec so I cant really complain! How is the incision? Almost fully healed?
@Glitter: How long until the Depo kicks in? Do you think you feel different or notice any side effects?
pomegranate / 3350 posts
Just curious, do all of you give your LOs pacifiers? W pretty much always took one but G just doesn't seem to want it. We've tried a few times when he was fussy and having trouble falling asleep but he won't take it. I know it's supposed to reduce the risk of SIDS so I don't know if I should keep letting him try it or just give up?
papaya / 10343 posts
@skipra: I'll know more after my appt tomorrow afternoon, but the incision is still deep enough it requires packing. I'm guessing prob at least 2 more weeks before it is healed.
And Fiona doesn't care for pacis. If she is hungry we can sometimes give it to her to buy us a few min before a meltdown to get it together to feed her.. But it lasts like. 2 min
persimmon / 1281 posts
@skipra: 7 days till it kicks in. And doc made us promise like 100 times to WAIT those seven days. One of his patients took a chance and called him this morning - she'll be having two kids in an 11 month span. Ouch. No side effects yet (it's been about seven hours). Barely even felt the injection to begin with!
Also no, we haven't given Gio a pacifier. We've definitely toyed with the idea at times when he is super fussy but we're afraid he gets too attached to it so we didn't bother..
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: yay for bc! I still don't know what we are doing. I was leaning towards condoms, but I also thought we might be trying again in a year. At this point dh and I feel like we may be 1 and done or if not we would want to wait like 3+ yrs between, so I'd like something more permanent. I'm scared of iuds, but sort of considering it again for the ease/long lasting-ness
persimmon / 1281 posts
Oh concerning BC, I forgot to add that I'm gonna be on depo for just one year - the length of the breastfeeding goal. Then I revert to the pill. I was concerned about delayed fertility often associated with depo so after a year I will wean off it while using the pill as protection. By then I won't be breastfeeding anymore. Just wanted to throw that out there as another option.
DH wants to wait two years before we start trying again. I would prefer one year (I think) but I haven't told him so. He handled pregnancy, delivery and now fatherhood like a champ so I assumed it was all pretty easy and natural for him, but we had a heart to heart and he said it was rough watching me go through a painful pregnancy and delivery and the life changes with a baby are more than he anticipated so he would like to wait a while. I guess that's fair.
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: it is still so new, who knows how any if us will feel in a year! My dh feels the same though. He has had a rough go of it. He has been awesome but he gets frustrated seeing me struggle and be in pain and not be able to fix it. And my labor and c section sort of traumatized him as well. Before they opted for c section they had baby and I hooked up to monitors that showed both our info on one computer screen he could see. He said afterwards he just kept staring at that screen and both our vitals going wonky and was just so scared something would happen to one or both of us. I think he was surprised by how scary the whole thing was.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@Mae: Yeh I could imagine how scary that would have been for him! Sometimes bearing the pain is easier than watching someone you love go through it, especially when you're unable to take it away.
honeydew / 7230 posts
@skipra: We've given our LOs pacifiers from the beginning. I just had to because Alice was inconsolable in the hospital and I had no milk which would cause her to scream and scream. The paci was the only thing that kept us sane! Now of course she's ambivalent about the paci (would prefer to be pacified by the boob constantly!) but Blake is crazy for his pacifier. I wouldn't force your LO to take it, but I'm glad mine do!
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Glitter: Interestig about the depo. I am still not sure f my dr will prescribe anything for me at my 6 wk appt this Friday. She's sort of anti-BC. Hopefully I can get a mini pill script from someone in the office! I am nervous about taking it consistently though. For some reason I'm scared of other BC measures (no idea why) so I think I'll try tr mini-pill at first. We are totally done so I think we need to start talking permanent measures but too tired to think about it at the moment!
persimmon / 1281 posts
@twodoghouse: I was hoping for the mini pill too but it's not available anywhere in my country! #thirdworldproblems
pomegranate / 3917 posts
Just got a 3.5 hour stretch of sleep, omg I feel like a new person. Most sleep stretch since he was born!
Nip felt a but better too, maybe needed the break?
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Beebug: Ohh, good job little guy! I'm jealous! I think mine are going through a growth spurt so we are barely making it 2 hrs between feedings which means 1 hr at best for sleeping in between. Ugh!
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: aw yay! Our lo has been a good nighttime sleeper from the start and was giving me a 4 hr then 3 hr stretch at night the last week and it was awesome! Last 3 nights it's been more like 1.5-2.5 hr stretches, but she also has a cold and is all congested and coughing and sneezing (saddest thing ever ) so I'm hoping when she gets over that she will be back to longer stretches.
persimmon / 1281 posts
Just got 3 hrs myself. Not bad. Question :what is the routine during night time wakings? Is it wake, feed, change, soothe to sleep or wake, change, feed, soothe to sleep... Or some other variation.? I like to feed last because he often falls asleep on the boob, but then if he poops during a feed I have to change him before putting him down and that would wake him up! Then the rocking to sleep time could be long... But sometimes I have to feed first or he'll scream right through the diaper change. I also like knowing he's gone back to bed with clean diapers, so I dunno. What's your routine?
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