honeydew / 7230 posts
@Glitter: We're supplementing so it's probably a little different than what is do otherwise. But this is what we do at night: change diaper and unswaddle, breastfeed, burp, formula bottle, burp, swaddle back up (change diaper again at this point of needed), rock/snuggle till they are asleep or at least calmed down. Mine are pretty fussy with wet diapers so they will let me know if they need a change!!
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: we have her sleep in a swaddle sack. So I take her out of the sack and do boob 1, then burp, change, and reswaddle and do boob 2 and she usually falls asleep on the boob and I can set her down. Usually if she is going to poo while nursing it is on boob 1 bc she is just awake.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Glitter: for night wakings I feed, change and if he's asleep, he goes back down, if not I do the second side, with a longer burp/get to sleep session.
Somehow if I make it that far there almost always ends up being a poop and a second diaper change, lol.
I don't change before the first feed because the screaming and reaching for skin would not be worth it!
So he ended up sleeping til 7am! Got two huge long stretches, felt very lucky (and happy!) this morning!
I took him to walk in clinic yesterday, got eye drops for his messy eyes, follow up with family doc in a week, said the cold isn't in his chest (phew!), got the humidifier going and hopefully he can kick this nasty cold!
I have counselling today, first time going since having him, he is coming with of course, and hopefully either nurses or sleeps most of the time!
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: your lo has a cold too? Sucks doesn't it?! Fia was up coughing and snuffling so much last night. I hope the doc has some good advice for us today. Also good luck at counseling!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Mae: oh it's awful! The cough is the worst. I am assuming he got it from DD
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: my lo got it from our nephew who was here all last week and showed up sick. I really wish I'd said no to sil/nephew coming... But what's done is done !
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Beebug: @Mae: I'm sorry about your sick babies! Hope they both feel better soon!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Mae: ugh, brutal SIL still thought it was ok to come with him sick? I unfortunately didn't have an option in letting my DD come home, haha! She cracked another tooth too, that's four in the time since DS arrived, insanity.
I have DS in a collared onesie today, his first "outfit" other than a sleeper or plain onesie, I am so not a mom into cutesie outfits, the collar is huge! Not practical, lol.
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: she said he wasn't sick when they left. And they flew so couldn't send them home early
Also I'm having a rough day... Got lo all the way to the ped only to find out her appt is next tues not today. Ugh
kiwi / 619 posts
Awww sorry to hear that some of the babies already have colds poor little guys and girls! We've lucked out on our end so far and W seems healthy...but I'm sure it won't be long till DD brings something home.
Things are finally starting to look up on our end. I was in the ER yet again on Friday. My rash just kept getting worst and wosts. It's seriously the weirdest/most insane looking thing I've ever seen and is EVERYWHERE (except not too much on my face luckily). My GP couldn't diagnose it and she was getting worried about it, and brought in the head doctor in the practice and he said to have me seen by the ER right away since it was friday and they wouldn't get any blood test results over the weekend. Well, it looks like I'm having a bad reaction to one or more of the drugs I received during labour (probably the antibiotics). They started me on some heavy duty medication (although still safe for bf-ing) and creme and it's finally lightening a bit. It is, however, still extremely itchy, and I'm averaging about 1-2 hours of sleep a night only because I'm so insanely itchy. Hoping it doesn't last much longer, because so far, W sleeps like champ, and I want some sleep too!
In terms of night feedings, we do things a bit differently since I'm exclusively pumping. I get up in the midle of the night (between 1 and 2 am) and then first thing in th emorning (around 6) to pump while DH gives him a bottle and changes his diaper (although to be honest, I'm downstairs while DH feeds him, so I'm not sure the diaper change always gets done). The other night W slept from 10h00 p.m. till 5h0am...it was insane! I woke DH up tellin ghim I had to pump and that W had to be woken up to eat, and DH was all upset that I was waking him up when W hadn't even woken up...but that seems like just WAY too long for him to not eat.
I'm really sorry to hear about all the nipple pain you guys are having I must admit that that is a huge reason I switched to pumping. I know it's not completely pain-free, but I don't find it nearly as bad as bf-ing...I'm a big baby and totally couldn't handle that latch pain. The pumping has also helped us get out and go on lots our outings as well, since I would be the same as some of you and not comfortbale bf-ing in public yet. But I just pump before we go somewhere, and make sure I'm home by max 4 hours later to pump again. We've taking DD to her swimming lessons, gone to the farm, gone to friends' houses, and yesterday I did my first solo outing with both kids! We went to ikea hahaha...it was awesome! DD behaved like a champ, and W just slept the whole time
Here is DD enjoying her high quality ikea pancakes
I'm already starting to forget my labour...I really want to write my birth story and post it...so I may be boring all of you with it in the near future!
papaya / 10343 posts
@cookie_dough: can't wait to hear your birth story! And I feel the same about waking fia. I often have to wake her to feed (I never go longer than 5 hrs start to start overnight or 3.5 during the day... I hate it but I think she is too young and hasn't showed enough gain to let her sleep longer. Although this week she wants to eat like every. 2-3 hrs.. But she is sick so I think that doesn't let her sleep so well. And also prob she wants to comfort nurse a bit.
Also so sorry to hear about your rash! I meant to ask about drug allergy but it's so hard to respond sometimes. The same thing happened to me last year. I got a new rx and that night my arms started getting itchy. By 2 days later I had a horrible itchy rash all over my arms legs and torso. Itchiest I've ever been! It was awful. So sorry that you are dealing with that right now!!
papaya / 10343 posts
So I have to brag on Fiona a little bit because she was such a rock star today! We had sort of a crazy day because (I thought) we had a ped appointment at 10:50, and then I had an OB appointment at 2 for a wound check. And this was my first time taking her out alone. So figuring out her feeding schedule was a little rough because of the timing of things but we got it worked out and she did so well! Slept in the car the whole time to both places! And I took my moby to put her in to carry her in/out because I'm not allowed to carry her car seat yet (nothing heavier than the baby for 6 weeks) and it worked great. She fell right asleep and was happy as a clam! She was so happy in fact I decided to run to target after my ob appointment and she did great there too! I'm sure not every outing will go so well, but it gave me some confidence that I CAN run errands with her and it might be just fine. She seems really happy in the moby and that is easy enough to throw on and carry her around in-- so yay!
Also re: her cold-- even though I did not in fact have a ped appt today (sigh) I asked to talk to a triage nurse about her cold. She said there isn't anything they can do at this point, but gave me a few ideas for home. She said we can put some saline up her nose before sucking it out and that might get more of the snot out. Also recommended a humidifier for night (hence the trip to target) and said we should have her sleep in her rock n play until she isn't congested anymore because sitting up a bit will help her breath better (and thus sleep better). I hate that she is sick but I'm glad there are least some little things we can do to try to help.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
I'm jealous of the babies that are already sleeping longer at night! Leo is still up around every 2.5 hours. DS1 didn't have a longer stretch of sleep until around 7-8 weeks. I'm handling the sleep deprivation better this time but still can't wait for more sleep!
We've gone to the mall and outlets so far. But I have my mom to help. I don't think I could do it by myself with both kids yet. I remember being scared to take DS1 anywhere by myself. Now that seems like a breeze. Crazy how our perspective changes.
Leo is FF so his night wakings are a little different too. I only change his diaper every other waking unless it's a poop diaper. He also isn't usually swaddled so after feeding and burping, he's back in the rnp. He usually falls asleep while burping. If not, I stick the pacifier in and rock it until he falls asleep.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@twodoghouse: @Mae: @Beebug: @cookie_dough: @Mamasig: thanks so much for the responses. I'm gonna try the half feed, change, complete feed and see if that works.
Also I thought Gio had baby acne but at his checkup today the doc said it was an irritation and she believes it's caused by Johnson & Johnson products. We use EVERYTHING Johnson & Johnson. Since its so popular I figured it was good but it seems the ingredients can be pretty harsh. She switched us to Cetaphil gentle cleanser for bath time and Cetaphil lotion. I miss the lovely baby scents but his skin just wasn't having it.
persimmon / 1281 posts
@Mae: also congrats on being such a super mom! The only time I've ever been in public alone with G was at the bank this week for a whole twenty minutes, lol. He was sleeping and I was sooo nervous waiting for DH to return. But I am excited to take him out alone and see how we survive!
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Mae: Wow way to go Fiona! Good work! Blake is super nasally so we do the saline and nose bulb on him too. Works ok but I'm surprised by how much snot a tiny nose can hold! Are you using a bulb thing or Nosefrida? I want to get a Nosrfrida but haven't yet!
@Mamasig: My kids are no where near sleeping long stretches either! I'm jealous too!
@Glitter: Oh my, scary about Gio's skin irritation! I've been using California Baby but it's expensive. Maybe I'll switch to cetaphil once we are done with the CB. My husband has very sensitive skin so I'm nervous about the babies' skin!
Friday is my 6 week appointment already. Excited to be cleared for exercise and sex! My mom is back in town through July fourth and it is amazing to have her back! This weekend we're heading up to the Chicago suburbs to see some family. I'm nervous about traveling but hopefully it goes well.
Oh, we hit a fantastic milestone today! Big smiles from both babies. I've got pictures and will try to get them up later when I'm not typing whole nursing. Speaking of which holy cow they must be going through growth spurts. I've had one or both on the boob constantly the last 3 days. I'm so exhausted from all the feeding!
cherry / 129 posts
Hey hey ladies. Wow! It has been a while. I remember how life was pre baby, and how much more free time we had
Amelia has had some bad, but lots of good days. Ped says she has reflux. This was after a week of me struggling to figure out why my baby was screaming every time I breastfed her. It was a combo of reflux and gas and some constipation. Crappy! She is on Prevacid for the reflux, and it seems to be working.
The gas though...... Seriously! I hate baby gas. It is so frustrating seeing her struggling to pass gas. We have tried everything - gripe, drops, massage, bicycles, prayers! Heck, today I even tried the Windi (Google it, I am too traumatized to describe what it is) I am so over the gassy baby phase.
The good- when she is not in pain she is a great baby. Great temperament. When she laughs in her sleep, it makes any amount of hellish craziness that happened that day disappear. Now she is social smiling.
I know there was a Facebook group, and not sure I missed the invitation. @beebug or @mae or @glitter- who was administering it? My mummy brain does not remember anything!
persimmon / 1281 posts
@twodoghouse: we have a nosefrida and we use it almost everyday. Honestly the first time I used it I did get a big nauseous, but I'm over it and it works!
Serious talk now ladies. Have any of you been brave enough to look down there? I decided not to until I had recovered fully and sex was in the near future. Well I have recovered fully and sex is in the near future, so I pulled out my mirror. Wow. I do not recognize myself
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: aw poor baby! I have crazy sensitive skin so I assume fia does too. All her products are babganics or aveda unscented. So far so good there.
@twodoghouse: OMG smiles! So exciting! I am not so patiently waiting for Fiona to smile. I can't wait! And we actually have an electronic nose sucker.
I had another lc appt yesterday.. Lots to update but will have to wait until I'm off my phone!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
@Coopersmama: wall me or post here if we are on same time your email address, I will send that email address and invitation to join the group
When on at same time, I can msg back quick and you can edit off your email addy.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
@twodoghouse: Love the nose frida! I think it works better than the bulb. Both if my boys have been very nasally. My older one had his adenoids taken out a few months ago and it made a big difference. I'm guessing Leo may be following in his footsteps.
@Coopersmama: I hate the baby has too! Poor little guy looks likes he's in pain but he doesn't cry. I guess it's just discomfort.
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Coopersmama: We are dealing with reflux too. Alice is on Zantac and Blake is on Prevacid, but I'm not totally sure either are working. It's rough dealing with the spot up and the sad cries after they eat! Alice has problems with gas some nights too. It just kills me to see her crying and writhing in discomfort! I'm pretty sure she's constipated at the moment too. We switched to a new formula and the dr warned is switching. An cause constipation. She hasn't pooped in 48 hrs now and she just grunts and strains and nothing. Poor little girl.
@Glitter: This might sound dumb but I have not looked and don't really intend to! I never looked before so I'm not going to start! I feel pretty normal though. I didn't have any tears from the vaginal half of my delivery so I think I should be in good shape? I was afraid to look at my c section scar for at least two weeks though. I just made my mom look and tell me if it all looked normal.
@Mamasig: Good to know! I might amazo n prime it this morning!
Anyone doing anything special for Father's Day? I want to take pics of the babies with the letters DAD but of course we havent done that yet so...
papaya / 10343 posts
@Glitter: re: looking-- since I never got to pushing nothing really changed down south but I totally get how you feel regarding feeling weird about postpartum stuff and sex. This was sort of the biggest reason I hate my incision opening and my husband having to take care of it for me. I hate that he's had to spend weeks dealing with this gross medical issue and doing wound care (especially bc I have to be bottomless while he is doing it). Plus he's had to help me a lot with breastfeeding when Fiona gets handsy... so he has gotten lots of up close and personal views of my gross cracked bloody nipples. I really hope he can just forget about all this when we can finally get back to sex... he has definitely seen the worst of me in the last month.
@twodoghouse: I was scared to see my c- section scar too. and especially the open wound. I looked the day after it happened and cried and flipped out and DH banned me from looking again.
For father's day I got him a gift and a card and my parents are coming over so we can go see a movie!! so excited! I hope we feel well enough to go with us both sick right now though!
So-- I had another appointment with the LC yesterday and learned a lot of things. First of all-- she said I need to cut way back on direct breastfeeding. She actually wanted me to stop all together for 2-3 days and just pump because my nipples have just gotten increasingly worse and more painful and she said they are just never going to heal with me breastfeeding all the time. I am not comfortable with stopping entirely so we agreed on me pumping for every session except for right before bed and my middle of the night session. She just sleeps so well after I BF her then so I'm not going to give it up unless a few days of pumping during the day doesn't seem to be helping enough.
Secondly, she thinks Fiona has a posterior tongue tie. She said the fact that my injuries keep getting worse and she is still flattening me (even though her latch appears good) and my low supply all suggest she might. So I have an appointment with a specialist next friday (ugh so far away!) in Dayton (1.5 hour drive :/) to get her evaluated and if she does have one he can clip it at the appointment. I hate to have something done to her but she said it will fix the pain problem if that is the case. And she really has no other suggestions to fix the pain because she said she can't think of any other reason she is causing so much damage and it is definitely far beyond normal for this stage. So-- hopeful that is the problem and we can fix it!
Also, her weight was way up now with the supplementing! She gained a pound in 9 days! yay! But the LC said it isn't super likely (even if we fix the tongue tie) that my supply will increase enough to stop supplementing entirely. So.. bummer on that. But it is POSSIBLE it could, so fingers crossed. and regardless if it fixes the pain issue it is worth it.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
@twodoghouse: I've been checking out my c section scar this time. Last time it developed a keloid scar which I hated! The doc took the scar tissue out and hopefully it heals prettier this time. I tried doing some ab exercises yesterday - my abs are totally ugh!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
I think I may have to quit bf! No lactation consultant in area (or into city!) that I've called can see me until next Wednesday the 18th. I'm ready to quit now, I'm delaying feeding him and crying before he is even latched, let alone him latching.
I was on a well known bf expert in this area website this morning and watched all the videos and everything appears to be correct, there was also a video on clipping a tongue tie and I about near died watching it and am so not capable of doing that to him, would rather just quit!
Crying, sobbing mess of a morning
papaya / 10343 posts
@Beebug: i'm so sorry I REALLY know how you feel. I have cried with almost every bf session the past few days because it just hurts SO EFFING BAD. And Fiona's appointment for the tongue tie isn't until the 20th. Ugh. My mom actually suggested to me yesterday that I just quit and formula feed because of the pain and the fact that my supply is so low anyways (and very well may never increase) and then I wouldn't have to put her through the procedure-- which was shocking to me bc my mom is SOOO pro bf. So yea. If you do quit I TOTALLY get it because I've been thinking the same thing.
For me personally I'm going to try to stick it out for a little while longer. I hate having her undergo the procedure, but at the same time the LC said that a lot of times a tongue tie can affect speech and need to be corrected later anyways-- and at that point it would be under general anesthesia. That makes me feel a little better about having it done. And I feel like if that does fix the problem, and if I can get myself healed in the next week (I'm pumping every 2 hrs during the day and bottle feeding her, and just BF her at night), in the next 2-3 weeks the problem could be solved and I could at least continue BF her SOME even if I always have to supplement. I think it is worth it to me to try. But yea. I totally feel you and get why it may not be worth it to you to keep going.
honeydew / 7230 posts
@Beebug: @Mae: I'm sorry you two are dealing with BF issues. I have low supply (or at least not enough to feed both of them enough) so I'm already supplementing. I fantasize about going straight to formula and just not messing with Bf anymore. I love the act of breastfeeding, but doing it constantly for two babies is just sapping all my energy. I don't even have any time/energy for pumping anymore. When I do pump I hardly get anything. I guess that's good because they are getting everything out of my boobs. But shoot having bottles of pumped milk to give them at night makes such a difference. Our night wake ups are at least an hour now and more if I can't tandem feed them. And they only want to go 2-2.5 hrs at night which means I get an hour of sleep at a time. I am lucky that they are good at breastfeeding but I am just so worn down from it! Hopefully when they pass out of this growth spurt I will get a little break.
papaya / 10343 posts
@twodoghouse: You are such a rock star. I can't IMAGINE trying to feed two. I don't think I'd have stuck with it as well as you have! I have definitely toyed with the idea of quitting. It would be so much easier (sorta). I guess I feel like if we can get to the point where I can EBF (even if that is a small chance) that would be the easiest. FF would be second easiest. Combo feeding is definitely the hardest... but I feel like if I can get past the pain issue I'd still like to do it at least for a while.
Although I'll admit that it was a huge weight off when my mom suggested I quit yesterday. She is such a huge proponent of BF I have been feeling like if I did quit she would really judge me for it. And my husband sort of said the same last night when we were talking about it. Like he fully supports me doing whatever I want to keep BF and he sees the benefits, but at this point he feels like I've gone above and beyond and if I want to quit he feels like my mental/emotional health is worth that. So I guess it actually makes me feel a bit better about continuing to go on for a bit because I feel like it is really my choice and I no longer have to think/worry that "omg I hate this and I can't quit because my mom and husband will think I'm a failure."
kiwi / 619 posts
@Mae: @Beebug: I am so sorry to hear about the issues you guys are still having That was exactly where I was when I had DD...it was awful. I spent weeks agonizing about whether to continue bf-ing and it was causing me so so so much stress (probably part of the reason I didn't even really try this time and went straight to pumping). I am super lucky and had a really good supply with DD (and this time as well). If I didn't, I probably wouldn't have lasted long with the exclusive pumping before switching to formula. I think that we put so much pressure on ourselves, but in the end, for me personally, not living in total agony and not dreading the thought of feeding my child would win out. DH has been so supportive both times of me doing whatever I feel most comfortable with, and if that means formula, then no problem! Last time I made it to 5 months of exclusively pumping (and had a freezer stash that kept us going until about the nine month mark). I don't think I'm going to make it as long this time, but I'm just going to take it one day at a time. I hope that you guys both find some relief soon.
@Glitter: I haven't been brave enough to look at things "down there"...i'm sooooooooo scared too...I know that it's not going to be a pretty sight given the fact that I had an episiotomy/vacumm delivery. DH is worried that I'm never going to let him near me again given the insane trauma to my lady parts hahaha...I can guarantee that it will take longer than the 6 weeks for me to feel comfortable with anything happening in that department
@Mae: too funny that you thought of drug reaction, and half the doctors I saw couldn't even figure it out! The weird thing is that it started about 1.5 weeks after the delivery...so a bit delayed...which I find strange. And of course I forgot to ask the doc if that was normal.
I must admit that the one good thing about my awful rash/many ER and doctor visits is that it somehow eliminated my baby blues! For the first week home I was a crying mess, and I think that the distraction of having to deal with this horrible rash made me shift gears and I am much much happier with things now. It also helps that DD has been awesome lately...the tantrums have been minimal, and she's being a pretty good helper!
pomegranate / 3917 posts
An LC office called and fitting me in 3:30 today! It's 45 mins away so I need to get my butt out the door, but omg yay! Wish me luck!
coffee bean / 39 posts
@beebug: Good luck!! I hope the LC visit is helpful.
@mae: I had supply issues w/ DD#1 in the beginning and had to combo BF and then pump. My best advice is to order a few extra sets of pump parts. After nursing and then pumping, it made me so cranky to also be constantly washing pump parts. I ordered 2 extra sets so I could put off the washing for a bit. It still sucked, but it made my bad moods a little better. I'm sure you already know this, but you can store the pump parts in the fridge between pumping sessions to cut down on the washing too.
@glitter: I'm also scared to look, but I already know things are never going back to normal. I had a bad 3rd degree tear last time and apparently tore along the same lines this time. My doctor said she would "do her best to fix it" which doesn't sound very promising. @cookie_dough: I'm with you, I don't think the 6 wk all clear is going to mean much to me. I'm so not ready for any sort of action on that front!! I think DH has just accepted the fact that like last time, it's gonna be awhile.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
@Mae: @Beebug: Ladies, I'm probably a downer because I quit BF early on because of the pain. I just couldn't take it and didn't enjoy BF. Honestly, I felt the same connection with my boys by giving them a bottle. I think it's great y'all are pushing through the pain. But it's also ok to quit - just an opinion from someone who did.
papaya / 10343 posts
well guys, i'm a bit discouraged today. Fiona was great, although it was sort of a hard day generally because my cold has gotten worse and I really feel shitty. But mostly discouraged about BF. My boobs hurt worse than usual today and Ive been pumping all day. what gives?! Fiona is taking a nap and I had an hour until I had to pump again so I laid down to try to take a (desperately needed) nap myself and I couldn't even sleep bc my boobs hurt so bad.
Also I talked to a friend this afternoon bc I knew his daughter had the same posterior tongue tie issue Fiona may have. He warned me that their LC warned them away from the guy I have an appointment with bc he has botched several of her clients surgeries. So I called her and she confirmed she refuses to refer to him bc of several bad experiences She had 3 other recommendations but one is booked for a month, one can't get me in until the 24th, and the other didn't answer their phone.
I just don't know what to do. My LC likes this guy.. but the other LC doesn't. I called my LC and left a message asking about the other 2 guys so we'll see what she says. but I hate the confusion. And the worrying I"ll make a wrong choice. And the fact that my boobs hurt SO EFFING BAD today.
Kind of having an f it I want to quit sort of moment. But making decisions when I'm this upset is not a good thing so I think I need to sleep on it and talk to DH and see how I feel this weekend maybe when I (dear god hopefully) feel better.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
I'm a mess.
Not really sure what to do.
If it weren't for cost, I would switch to FF right away. I'm guessing FF would be $400 or so a month with how often he eats at this point.
LC said he has a tight tongue tie and mild lip tie. I will have to go into city to doctor (who I mentioned earlier who is apparently the best) who will continue to help with latch, but likely want to cut both ties, I don't know if I can handle that for C. On top I that it doesn't fix my pain issues, or is no guarantee to over time.
Pumping will not help me, said if I told her nothing she would have guessed I EP, all my damage is around base of nipple, will get a script for EPNO, that's Monday with my family doc.
I really don't know which way to go, and am a complete mess.
On a good note he was 10lbs 11oz and said despite my pain he looks to be thriving and I'm doing a great job.
Whyyyyy does it have to be so painful, argh it was so easy up to now.
She have me a few tips for latching him, but overall we weren't doing too bad. Recco'd putting EVOO on nipple before nursing and "stretching" out the nipple seeing as the pain lessens about a minute into things, just help lessen the awfulness when he latches.
Bah I don't know what to do.
cherry / 129 posts
@glitter- I have not even read the rest of the responses, but OMG. You made me chuckle and feel sad at the same time. I ended up having an emergency C-section, so just have my scar for life to contend with.
cherry / 129 posts
@mae and @beebug- I am soooo sorry to hear about the breastfeeding issues, and the lack of resources to tackle them. That would drive me to hours of tears. I had a 'relatively less' challenge breastfeeding - and I cried lots. Fortunately after three LC appointments (with different LC's) we were able to figure something out. I do remember my husband saying lets do what we need to an introduce formula. Before the baby I was open to whatever. Now after baby I was way too emotional thinking about it. I can completely understand why it would be a tough decision.
Having said that, whatever decision you both make will not make you any less of good moms. It is not a failure that this 'natural' thing is so freaking hard!!! Try not to mummy guilt yourselves of whatever way you decide to go. Sending you love and good vibes.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
@Beebug: @Mae: sorry ladies - I feel for you with the pain. Leo has a tongue tie too but I'm too much of a wimp to do something about it. I hope y'all can find some help with the pain.
pomegranate / 3350 posts
@Mae: @Beebug: So sorry to hear about the bf struggles. If you switch to formula do you still have to deal with the tongue ties? I've heard that it's not a big deal, just in office procedure? Hoping it turns out to be an easy and not to painful fix for your LOs.
So far bf is going pretty good for us but I leak all over the place. I cant wear sleep bras to bed and I'm drenched in the morning. And it doesn't stop until I pump a few ounces but of course the pumping makes the leaking worse. On top of it sometimes G starts choking and pulls off so I spray everywhere. Today I was leaking on one side, spraying on the other, and then got a lap full of spit up. Motherhood is certainly glamourous.
pomegranate / 3917 posts
Ok, mentally I'm a little better today.
DH and I got in a big fight about it after he said "if all of these appointments and things "wrong" with C are just a cover up because you want to quit, just quit".
I near had a nuclear meltdown. It's still really not been dealt with, but I could have killed him.
I'm working on the latch tips I got yesterday, the pain is still brutal, but I'm going to wait things out until Monday (somehow)to see what my doc thinks, go from there. C refused a bottle last night, so I'm feeling cornered and am either crying trying to bottle feed, or bf, and so I'm just sucking it up as he clearly has no idea on my pain.
@skipra: I had also heard it wasn't a big deal, then I watched videos, and wanted to crumple seeing the LOs cry. I think I struggle because it's not a "yes, this will 100% fix your problems". My pain issue doesn't get fixed, right away anyways, and there's no guarantee it'll change things for him, so that's where I struggle. My pain problem becomes something pain inducing for him, I just can't wrap my head around that.
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